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From: "Ekkehard Morgenstern" <ekkehard.morgenstern@onlinehome.de>
Subject: Re: [announcement] SYSAPI and SYSSVC for Windows
Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2003 20:52:30 +0100
Date: 2003-12-20T20:52:30+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bs29a5$d6n$1@online.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bs203e$8re23$1@ID-77047.news.uni-berlin.de


"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
> The problem is to tell the customers, that *their* applications should be
> designed so that *our* DLLs and hardware drivers would not stray into an
> unpredictable state.

What's the problem communicating this to the customer?

> A manual reset event only needed when there could be more than one task
> waiting for the event.

Yes that, and then some. (sorry I don't have time right now to elaborate)

> > C++ is well-defined also, btw. There's already a number of ISO standards
> > for C and C++,
> 
> A *number of* standards, fascinating! (:-))

For Ada, there's also an '83 and a '95 rationale. ;)
 
> Come on! C++ does not have:
> 
> 1. multiple dispatch;

True, except for constructors and destructors. They're always called for all derived classes of an object.

Regular virtual methods have to call the methods of their parent class if so desired.

> 2. dispatch on function result;

True. Not possible w/ C++.

> 3. dispatch on access types;

False. Method overloading based on parameters of different types, even pointer types, is supported.

> 4. differentiation between class-wide and specific types;

Class-wide types in Ada roughly correspond to base classes in C++.

> 5. functions returning class-wide objects on the stack;

True, but you can return a reference to an object. (I'm not sure if passing a reference to a 
temporary object would work)

> 6. streaming / object factory support ('Input, 'Output attributes in Ada);

There are provisions for that in the C++ streams standard library. But I haven't yet read
about the features in Ada you're talking about.

> 7. formal derived type parameter for generics;

False. Of course you can use derived classes or other types in templates.

> Why? The following is OK:
> 
>    type T is limited private;
> private
>    type T is limited record
>       I : aliased Integer;

Yes, but I is an Integer. Discrete types can always be aliased.

In my case, it was an array of aliased types, and I wanted to create an access
to an array element.

> "Aliased" is the keyword for that. Objects of some types are always
> aliased:
> 
>    type T is tagged limited ...;

so I could've just used a tagged limited record?

Like this:

    type T is tagged limited
    record
        A : My_Array_Type;
    end record;

    procedure F ( O : in out T ) is
        Ptr : My_Array_Cell_Ptr;
    begin
        Ptr := O.A(1)'Access;
    end;

Right?

> And finally, if you want to get a pointer in F, then probably
> 
>    procedure F (O : access T);
> 
> is reasonable.

Unfortuantely I cannot pass this on to the entry points of my task. ;)

So I decided to use a regular access types and Limited_Controlled types.





  reply	other threads:[~2003-12-20 19:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-12-17 19:17 [announcement] SYSAPI and SYSSVC for Windows amado.alves
2003-12-17 19:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-18  9:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-18 12:14   ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-18 13:31     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-19 10:45       ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 17:12         ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-19 17:22           ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-12-20  0:21           ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20  2:18             ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-20  4:40               ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21  3:45                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-21 19:01                   ` Piracy was " Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-18 14:32     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-19 11:11       ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 15:15         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-19 15:50           ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 16:48             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-19 16:57               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-20  1:17               ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21  2:19                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-21 10:34                   ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22  9:02                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-22 15:17                       ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 15:08                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-22 15:31                       ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 16:35                         ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-23  1:47                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-23  8:40                             ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-23  9:05                               ` Stephen Leake
2003-12-19 17:06         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20  1:49           ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 11:13             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 13:40               ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 17:21                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 19:52                   ` Ekkehard Morgenstern [this message]
2003-12-21  4:24                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-21 13:42                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-21 15:48                       ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 17:46                         ` Michal Morawski
2003-12-21 18:05                           ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22  0:50                             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-23 23:02                       ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-24 11:20                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-24 16:57                           ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-25 14:00                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-28  1:49                       ` Dave Thompson
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-15 14:18 Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 15:10 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 17:10 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-15 18:38   ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16  0:25     ` Stephen Leake
2003-12-16  0:56       ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16  2:47         ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-16 17:45           ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16 19:54             ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-16 22:09               ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-17 15:24                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-17 23:23                   ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 18:14                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-12-16  5:36         ` tmoran
2003-12-16 17:30           ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 20:44 ` David Marceau
2003-12-16  0:34   ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-17 12:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-17 15:00   ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 19:24 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
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