From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: [announcement] SYSAPI and SYSSVC for Windows
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:32:07 +0100
Date: 2003-12-18T15:32:07+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <brsddi$73fee$1@ID-77047.news.uni-berlin.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: brs5mo$278$1@online.de
Ekkehard Morgenstern wrote:
> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>> Try to install Windows over network!
>
> There are toolkits supplied by Microsoft to permit remote installing.
> If you know how to use them, it's no big deal.
>
>> It is also amusing to install NT 4.0 on a relatively modern box. You will
>> have a lot of fancy blue screens.
>
> Windows NT 4.0 is an anachronism.
It is more stable than 2k/XP, thank to absence of plug'n'pray, I suppose.
Multitasking is also better under NT, at least it is more predictable. So
many of our customers keep sticking to NT. And honestly, I can hardly
remember anything really new in OS API...
> Microsoft doesn't support it anymore,
> either. Even Windows 2000 is outdated. Windows XP is the way to go, it
> does not only include all of Windows 2000 but also all of Windows NT (even
> the OS/2 1.3 and POSIX subsystems exist in XP).
As well as quick basic...
>> Well, an OO OS written in Ada sounds good. However, it would be rather
>> difficult to do in a clear way without multiple inheritance and dispatch,
>> full blown ADT, tagged tasks and protected types, light-weight smart
>> pointers, reasonable sreaming and memory pools support. Ada just has
>> started to catch it, but it has a long way to go.
>
> Ada 95 just has a different way of doing things.
There is no different way to do things I mentioned. There are only more or
less nasty work-arounds. It is OK for 80% of applications, but for an OS,
using work-arounds in API is the worst thing I can imagine. Nobody needs
one more "adux" or "adows". We need a completely new OS. Scalable from
embedded to mainframe, from real-time to time-sharing etc, and with an OO
API. So if ADT and OO with all their bells and whistles are not supported
by a language (and presently there is no one), it is would be a great
mistake to make the OS API OO.
> If you take your time to
> understand them, you can use them effectively as well.
>
> I bet the Ada 20xx standard that is in the works will add even more
> interesting stuff to the language.
I bet it will not change the situation. The time of a big cut is yet to
come.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2003-12-17 19:17 [announcement] SYSAPI and SYSSVC for Windows amado.alves
2003-12-17 19:56 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-18 9:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-18 12:14 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-18 13:31 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-19 10:45 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 17:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-19 17:22 ` Vinzent 'Gadget' Hoefler
2003-12-20 0:21 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 2:18 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-20 4:40 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 3:45 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-21 19:01 ` Piracy was " Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-18 14:32 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2003-12-19 11:11 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 15:15 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-19 15:50 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 16:48 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-19 16:57 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-20 1:17 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 2:19 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-21 10:34 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 9:02 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-22 15:17 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 15:08 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-22 15:31 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 16:35 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-23 1:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-12-23 8:40 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-23 9:05 ` Stephen Leake
2003-12-19 17:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 1:49 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 11:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 13:40 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 17:21 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-20 19:52 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 4:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-12-21 13:42 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-21 15:48 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-21 17:46 ` Michal Morawski
2003-12-21 18:05 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-22 0:50 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-12-23 23:02 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-24 11:20 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-24 16:57 ` Robert A Duff
2003-12-25 14:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-28 1:49 ` Dave Thompson
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-12-15 14:18 Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 15:10 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 17:10 ` Jeffrey Carter
2003-12-15 18:38 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16 0:25 ` Stephen Leake
2003-12-16 0:56 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16 2:47 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-16 17:45 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-16 19:54 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-16 22:09 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-17 15:24 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-12-17 23:23 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-19 18:14 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-12-16 5:36 ` tmoran
2003-12-16 17:30 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-15 20:44 ` David Marceau
2003-12-16 0:34 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-17 12:05 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-12-17 15:00 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
2003-12-20 19:24 ` Ekkehard Morgenstern
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