From: Dave Thompson <david.thompson1@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: What about big integers in Ada 2005?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:36:02 GMT
Date: 2005-10-10T05:36:02+00:00 [thread overview]
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On Tue, 04 Oct 2005 18:56:20 GMT, <adaworks@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<snip>
> BCD was originally a six bit (where 7 was a parity bit) representation. With
> the advent of the byte on the IBM System 360, BCD became Extended Binary
> Coded Decimal Interchange Code (EBCDIC).
>
The 6-bit character code was BCDIC -- Binary Coded Decimal Interchange
Code. With the advent of _8-bit_ bytes on S/360 it became EBCDIC.
BCD was/is any representation that uses 4-bits for each decimal digit,
hence the name. That can be an outright 4-bit processor like the
original 4004; 4-bits in a 6-bit (BCDIC) or 8-bit (EBCDIC) or 7-bit
(ASCII) character; or 2 4-bit nibbles packed in an 8-bit byte.
> In COBOL for the 360, we had several Picture clauses available.
>
> 05 Item-1 PICTURE XXX . which would be represented by
> EBCDIC
> 05 Number PICTURE S99999. which would also be EBCDIC
> 05 Hnumber PICTURE S99999 Usage Comp-3. which would be packed
>
> decimal.
>
> COMP-3 represented the numeric PICTURE by using a half-byte (nibble) for each 9
> in the picture and a nibble for the sign. In the example shown, Hnumber would
> occupy
> only three bytes where Number would occupy five bytes. In both cases, the
> high-order
> nibble is used for the sign.
>
Not that last; the S/360 decimal instructions (AP, SP, etc.) put the
sign in the low-order nibble, namely the low half of the highest
addressed byte, which is the low-valued one on big-endian S/360.
For DISPLAY numeric the sign is in the high nibble aka 'zone' of _one_
byte, IIRC the low-order (high-address) one by default but you can
specify SIGN [IS] LEADING | TRAILING .
> There are actually some additional formats available including USAGE
> COMPUTATIONAL
> which is the same as representing a value in pure binary within the size of a
> word.
>
Pure binary, but IIRC fullword or halfword depending on digits.
And [DISPLAY] numeric with SIGN ... [IS] SEPARATE a full byte for each
digit _plus_ one for sign. (And numeric edited even more, but that's
no longer just a number representation anyway.)
> I could write for a couple of hours on this topic, but I think this gets the
> gist of the issue.
>
> The central problem is that business data processing people use all of these
> formats
> at one time or another.
>
- David.Thompson1 at worldnet.att.net
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2005-09-15 17:06 What about big integers in Ada 2005? jtg
2005-09-15 17:26 ` Pascal Obry
2005-09-15 17:30 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-15 17:26 ` Martin Krischik
2005-09-15 19:37 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-15 21:08 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-15 20:33 ` jtg
2005-09-15 21:10 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-09-18 0:46 ` adaworks
2005-09-30 17:41 ` Robert A Duff
2005-09-30 20:18 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-10-02 0:27 ` adaworks
[not found] ` <imsuj1h8vevg4un71rmh0nc41pnee5ihjl@4ax.com>
2005-10-02 10:33 ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-02 16:20 ` adaworks
2005-10-04 5:24 ` adaworks
2005-10-04 7:22 ` tmoran
2005-10-04 8:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2005-10-04 11:57 ` Simon Clubley
2005-10-04 16:10 ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-04 17:24 ` Simon Clubley
2005-10-04 19:44 ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-04 13:46 ` adaworks
2005-10-04 16:38 ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-04 16:52 ` Martin Dowie
2005-10-04 17:16 ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-04 13:50 ` adaworks
2005-10-04 14:59 ` Larry Kilgallen
2005-10-04 16:03 ` Robert A Duff
2005-10-04 18:56 ` adaworks
2005-10-10 5:36 ` Dave Thompson [this message]
2005-10-14 0:31 ` adaworks
2005-10-06 14:21 ` Adrian Hoe
2005-10-07 6:48 ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-02 0:48 ` Brian May
2005-10-02 10:28 ` Martin Krischik
2005-10-02 10:52 ` Brian May
2005-10-02 15:12 ` Simon Wright
2005-10-02 17:11 ` Martin Dowie
2005-09-16 14:33 ` gautier_niouzes
2005-09-17 3:43 ` Craig Carey <research@ijs.co.nz>
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