From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: Making sense of predicates
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:57:21 +0200
Date: 2013-10-22T09:57:21+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bit6qebfxmq5.kf31w4ou1cqy.dlg@40tude.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87iowprctp.fsf@adaheads.sparre-andersen.dk
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:20:50 +0200, Jacob Sparre Andersen wrote:
> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>
>> Considering this:
>>
>> type T is tagged null record;
>> procedure P (X : T);
>>
>> type S is new T with null record;
>> procedure Q (X : T);
>>
>> subtype Subclass is T'Class with
>> Dynamic_Predicate => Subclass in S'Class;
>> -- Should have been Static_Predicate, but illegal
>>
>> Now:
>>
>> X : Subclass := S'(null record);
>> begin
>> X.P;
>> X.Q; -- Illegal
>>
>> Well, predicates were not supposed to work in an intelligent way, so
>> why not to add a kind that will?
>
> But they do.
>
> * Predicates limit the set of possible values of a type.
Which definitely applies to Subclass. The set of values of Subclass is
narrowed from T'Class to its proper subset S'Class.
BTW, intelligence when limiting values set is a big issue by itself. It is
enough to mention the Circle-Ellipse controversy.
>> There are number of cases where this would be very useful. E.g. smart
>> pointers:
>>
>> type T1 is tagged ...;
>> type T1_Ptr is access all T1'Class;
>> type H1 is new Ada.Finalization.Controlled with record -- Handle type
>> Ptr : T1_Ptr;
>> end record;
>>
>> type T2 is new T1 with ...;
>>
>> Presently it is impossible to derive H2 from H1 constrained to point
>> to T2'Class. (Neither it were possible with implicit dereferencing)
>>
>> With the above, one would create a subtype of H1 constrained to
>> T2'Class and then derive from it (better in one step, of course).
>
> I think I understand what you want. I suspect that it would be rather
> hard to implement in a compiler. Do you have an idea for how it could
> be done?
By reworking Ada type system, which never will happen. I thought that maybe
a more subtle way could be to bend some recently added patches in a useful
way.
--
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-21 19:51 Making sense of predicates Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 4:35 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-10-22 8:19 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 12:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-10-22 13:38 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 20:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-10-24 4:03 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-10-24 7:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 7:14 ` Shark8
2013-10-22 7:35 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-10-22 17:26 ` Shark8
2013-10-23 7:56 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-10-24 3:58 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-10-22 8:11 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 7:20 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2013-10-22 7:57 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2013-10-22 14:52 ` Dan'l Miller
2013-10-22 16:30 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 17:15 ` Dan'l Miller
2013-10-22 19:26 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-10-22 19:49 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-10-22 21:30 ` Dan'l Miller
2013-10-23 9:25 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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