From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment.
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 13:31:34 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2003-08-16T13:31:34+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bhlbnm$6v5$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3F3E1A7D.7040402@noplace.com
Marin David Condic <nobody@noplace.com> wrote:
: But the
: FSF is determined not that you don't give away their work, but that you
: must give away *your*own* work, and that is somehow or other laudable?
You must give away your "own" work if and only if
a/ you distribute your "own" work
b/ your "own" work incorporates GPLed software.
I have put quotation marks around "own", because the GPL does _not_
force you to do anything with your own work, if it is your own work.
: That isn't "predatory"?
How could it? Free Software can only consist of parts that have
been deliberately licensed to the General Public.
If you can't make money from that, then they are not predators.
That would seem a strage logic to me.
If someone (A) deliberately offeres me (B) a chewing gum, and I take it,
then I am not a predator, am I?
If this person A says, "I'll give this to you (B) if you promise to give
your chewing gums away for free", then am I (B) a predator?
Is A a predator?
Do I have to take it?
Georg
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2003-08-02 10:06 Realtime/embedded project to help with employment Luke A. Guest
2003-08-06 0:35 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-06 12:00 ` Phil Thornley
2003-08-06 12:15 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-07 18:38 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-08 11:51 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-08 21:02 ` rleif
2003-08-09 14:00 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-09 15:53 ` Michael Erdmann
2003-08-10 5:01 ` rleif
2003-08-10 7:10 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-10 16:35 ` rleif
2003-08-10 17:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-12 16:14 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2003-08-12 18:12 ` Ed Falis
2003-08-10 22:45 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-12 14:55 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 12:59 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:46 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 14:50 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 17:02 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-12 14:59 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 15:05 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-12 15:16 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 16:08 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-12 17:35 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 7:33 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-13 7:45 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 10:13 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-13 11:00 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 11:48 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-13 12:12 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 11:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 16:17 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2003-08-13 3:58 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-19 13:54 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2003-08-10 17:04 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-11 14:20 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-12 12:34 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-12 13:48 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 3:58 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-13 7:14 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 13:24 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:54 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 0:19 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-15 8:35 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 14:26 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-15 14:37 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 16:14 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 10:02 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 18:07 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 6:38 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 13:34 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 15:43 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 18:36 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 20:30 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 21:32 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 19:04 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 19:28 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-19 6:29 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-19 20:48 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 13:57 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-16 18:18 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 18:33 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 12:52 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-17 13:20 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-18 6:41 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-17 23:03 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-18 1:51 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-13 11:14 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-08-13 12:49 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-13 23:34 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-13 12:34 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:10 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 13:30 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:47 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 12:32 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 13:56 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 7:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 13:55 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-08-14 12:40 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-18 11:10 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-08-13 14:40 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 16:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 13:01 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 16:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 4:22 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-15 9:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 21:59 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-16 1:36 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-17 11:30 ` Simon Wright
2003-08-17 12:08 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-17 12:30 ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-08-16 1:58 ` George Shapovalov
2003-08-16 10:08 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 11:50 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 12:04 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 18:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 6:46 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 13:48 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 13:31 ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2003-08-17 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 23:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-18 2:00 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 12:04 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-17 8:26 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-17 19:04 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-15 12:40 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 22:32 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-17 12:22 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 23:34 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 12:52 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 14:03 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 14:52 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 12:41 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-12 22:15 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-13 1:04 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 2:08 ` Wesley Groleau
2003-08-13 12:54 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:36 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 16:52 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-13 7:11 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 22:26 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-14 2:19 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-14 6:54 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 15:03 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-15 0:46 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-15 8:22 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 16:21 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-16 10:04 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 8:27 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-14 9:58 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 13:22 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-14 14:11 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 17:46 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-15 8:29 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 18:56 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-16 10:06 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 7:08 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-13 12:49 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 16:54 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-13 17:20 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-13 22:06 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-08-13 23:40 ` Luke A. Guest
2003-08-14 6:49 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 14:06 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 20:35 ` Pascal Obry
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2003-08-15 13:40 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 10:33 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 16:51 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 12:58 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 22:46 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 3:19 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-14 12:00 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-14 13:29 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-14 13:08 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 16:58 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-14 17:47 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-14 19:15 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-15 8:26 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 13:04 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 13:57 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 22:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-17 14:07 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-17 23:45 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 16:13 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-16 2:27 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-16 10:02 ` Preben Randhol
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2003-08-16 11:03 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 11:39 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-13 12:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-13 13:15 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 13:52 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-14 13:15 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-14 14:11 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 13:11 ` Marin David Condic
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2003-08-16 11:23 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-13 18:14 ` Georg B.
2003-08-14 13:25 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 9:35 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 13:17 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 14:50 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-14 17:05 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-15 8:44 ` ADCLing (was: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment.) Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 8:48 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-15 13:19 ` Realtime/embedded project to help with employment Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 14:12 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 11:43 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-16 11:59 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 14:55 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-08-16 23:34 ` Software Patent Concerns => New Black Markets? Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-17 19:04 ` Robert C. Leif
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2003-08-18 7:20 ` Ludovic Brenta
2003-08-18 14:25 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-18 14:38 ` chris
2003-08-19 10:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-19 11:32 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-18 18:31 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-18 19:04 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 19:36 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-19 6:58 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-19 15:06 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-19 17:00 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
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2003-08-20 12:49 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2003-08-20 19:16 ` Dmytry Lavrov
2003-08-21 8:12 ` Wojtek Narczynski
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2003-08-19 20:47 ` Robert C. Leif
2003-08-20 4:16 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-20 22:45 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-21 4:08 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-19 10:28 ` Georg Bauhaus
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2003-08-20 22:27 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-21 23:02 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
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2003-08-20 1:34 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-20 3:35 ` Wes Groleau
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2003-08-20 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-20 21:37 ` Patent Guy
2003-08-20 22:10 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-21 20:22 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-22 9:36 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-22 17:19 ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-08-20 22:32 ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-08-19 11:19 ` Wojtek Narczynski
2003-08-17 14:13 ` Realtime/embedded project to help with employment Marin David Condic
2003-08-15 14:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-08-15 19:17 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-16 10:08 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-16 17:40 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-18 6:35 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 16:37 ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-08-18 20:32 ` Preben Randhol
2003-08-18 20:47 ` Chad R. Meiners
2003-08-19 16:02 ` John R. Strohm
2003-08-16 23:23 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-13 19:03 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-08-10 17:26 ` Michael Erdmann
2003-08-10 11:17 ` Mário Amado Alves
2003-08-10 16:50 ` Marin David Condic
2003-08-10 17:20 ` Michael Erdmann
2003-08-13 14:21 ` Stephane Richard
2003-08-13 16:36 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-08-08 23:39 ` Luke A. Guest
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