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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: The old "Object.Method" syntax debate
Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 11:13:08 +0200
Date: 2003-05-25T11:13:08+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <baq1b0$26g25$3@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3ED056CB.8000200@attbi.com

Robert I. Eachus wrote:

> Alexander Kopilovitch wrote:
>> Dmitry A. Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote:
>> 
>>>Anyway prefix syntax exists also in the form of attributes.
>> 
>> Yes, but attributes cannot be introduced by user -- sometimes programmer
>> can provide an implementation of an attribute, but isn't permitted to
>> introduce his own attribute... this is a privilege for language designers
>> and compiler vendors.
>> (An apostrophe often is no more visible that a dot, but its upper
>> position in the line suggests that the following attribute somehow came
>> from a high authority -:) .
> 
> I really don't like the idea of allowing the Object.Operation format to
> Ada.  Yeah, the compilers can usually figure it out understand it. But
> the potential confusion with component notation is going to confuse
> experienced Ada users.  (And eventually other O-O language users when
> the actually run into component references.

However it is also a step into abstract record types. Consider:

type Complex is private;
function Complex.Im return Real;
function Complex.Re return Real;

Here Complex appears a record type with read-only members Im and Re, being 
internally something else (a polar complex number).

> Since the language currently allows defining attributes which are
> procedures or functions, why not use the apostrophe notation?  Now the
> meaning of Object'Operation is clear, even when it is actually
> Object'Length or whatever.

To have X'Image instead of T'Image (X)? That is too good to become a 
reality. (:-))

> Probably need a rule about overloading
> predefined attributes, but that shouldn't be such a big deal.  (They
> would be non-overridable declarations in scope.)

Actually there should be an ability to declare/rename a subroutine in any of 
the following formats:

1. Functional: F (...)
2. Postfix: X.F (...)
3. Attribute: X'F (...)
4. Operational: X + Y
5. Index: X (...)
6. Aggregate: (...)
7. Constructor: X : T (...) and new T (...)

For both 2 and 3 the language should not allow other arguments be either 
dispatching or of the same type as the dedicated argument.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de



  reply	other threads:[~2003-05-25  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-21 15:26 The old "Object.Method" syntax debate Marc A. Criley
2003-05-21 15:47 ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 16:21   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-05-21 16:34     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-21 16:43       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 17:13         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-21 17:13         ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 18:21           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 19:43             ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 20:36               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  3:24                 ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-22  2:31             ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-21 18:32           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  9:41       ` Xavier Nicollin
2003-05-22 14:56         ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-22 16:02           ` Xavier Nicollin
2003-05-23  2:56         ` Wesley Groleau
2003-05-21 16:50     ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 16:36   ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 16:55     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-05-21 18:03       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 18:17         ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 18:22           ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-21 20:53             ` tmoran
2003-05-22  2:11               ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22  4:04                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-05-22  7:34         ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2003-05-23  0:35         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-21 17:02   ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-21 17:55   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-21 19:54   ` Bobby D. Bryant
2003-05-21 20:37     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-22 14:32   ` Rodrigo Garcia
2003-05-22 15:39     ` David C. Hoos
2003-05-23  7:49       ` Rodrigo Garcia
2003-05-23  8:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-23 18:35           ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-25  5:38             ` Robert I. Eachus
2003-05-25  9:13               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov [this message]
2003-05-27  9:50                 ` John McCabe
2003-05-27 16:02                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-05-28  8:24                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28 12:36                     ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-28 13:14                       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-28 15:01                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-29  9:17                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-30 10:41                         ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-30 20:13                           ` Randy Brukardt
2003-06-02  9:11                             ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2003-05-31  9:29                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2003-05-28  3:02               ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-28  8:07                 ` John McCabe
2003-05-29  0:55                   ` Alexander Kopilovitch
2003-05-22 17:03     ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-23 14:43   ` Steve
2003-05-23 14:51     ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 15:21     ` John McCabe
2003-05-23 23:43     ` Robert A Duff
2003-05-25  5:42     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-05-25 14:40       ` Steve
2003-05-25 21:21         ` Gautier Write-only
2003-05-23  7:58 ` John McCabe
2003-05-23  8:39   ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 15:12     ` John McCabe
2003-05-23 15:18       ` Preben Randhol
2003-05-23 17:32     ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-27  9:09       ` John McCabe
2003-05-28 11:47       ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-28 16:14         ` Stephen Leake
2003-05-28 18:23           ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-05-23 20:45 ` steve_H
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-23 17:39 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-05-23 17:59 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-05-27  9:17 ` John McCabe
2003-06-03 17:23 Lionel.DRAGHI
2003-06-04  8:27 ` John McCabe
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