* Programming Language Survey @ 2003-05-16 19:20 Yaofei Chen 2003-05-16 19:55 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-16 20:44 ` Samuel Tardieu 0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Yaofei Chen @ 2003-05-16 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi all, We are doing a survey for Programming Language Trend right now. If you have interest, please visit http://swlab.njit.edu/techwatch to participate our survey. Thanks a lot! Yaofei ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 19:20 Programming Language Survey Yaofei Chen @ 2003-05-16 19:55 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-16 20:05 ` Stephane Richard 2003-05-19 15:16 ` Georg Bauhaus 2003-05-16 20:44 ` Samuel Tardieu 1 sibling, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-16 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <1b2f70c3.0305161120.6ca17b7e@posting.google.com>, yxc1856@njit.edu (Yaofei Chen) writes: > We are doing a survey for Programming Language Trend right now. If you have > interest, please visit http://swlab.njit.edu/techwatch to participate our > survey. Or perhaps you will find it a waste of time. I got a lot of visible HTML code and when I plowed through to the end and clicked "Submit" it responded with "No answer is submitted.". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 19:55 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-16 20:05 ` Stephane Richard 2003-05-16 20:21 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-17 9:49 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-19 15:16 ` Georg Bauhaus 1 sibling, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Stephane Richard @ 2003-05-16 20:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Not sure what the problem could be....I just tried taking the survey and it worked perfectly fine for me. Stephane Richard "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message news:qKWlbpQmoH9g@eisner.encompasserve.org... > In article <1b2f70c3.0305161120.6ca17b7e@posting.google.com>, yxc1856@njit.edu (Yaofei Chen) writes: > > > We are doing a survey for Programming Language Trend right now. If you have > > interest, please visit http://swlab.njit.edu/techwatch to participate our > > survey. > > Or perhaps you will find it a waste of time. > > I got a lot of visible HTML code and when I plowed through to the end > and clicked "Submit" it responded with "No answer is submitted.". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 20:05 ` Stephane Richard @ 2003-05-16 20:21 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-17 9:49 ` Preben Randhol 1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-16 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <2wbxa.9575$cK5.1565@nwrdny02.gnilink.net>, "Stephane Richard" <stephane.richard@verizon.net> writes: > Not sure what the problem could be....I just tried taking the survey and it > worked perfectly fine for me. > > Stephane Richard > > "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message > news:qKWlbpQmoH9g@eisner.encompasserve.org... >> In article <1b2f70c3.0305161120.6ca17b7e@posting.google.com>, > yxc1856@njit.edu (Yaofei Chen) writes: >> >> > We are doing a survey for Programming Language Trend right now. If you > have >> > interest, please visit http://swlab.njit.edu/techwatch to participate > our >> > survey. >> >> Or perhaps you will find it a waste of time. >> >> I got a lot of visible HTML code and when I plowed through to the end >> and clicked "Submit" it responded with "No answer is submitted.". I certainly cannot make http://validator.w3.org/ accept it. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 20:05 ` Stephane Richard 2003-05-16 20:21 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-17 9:49 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-17 12:27 ` Larry Kilgallen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-17 9:49 UTC (permalink / raw) Stephane Richard wrote: > Not sure what the problem could be....I just tried taking the survey and it > worked perfectly fine for me. Did you by any chance use IE? I get the same problems here with Mozilla. -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-17 9:49 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-17 12:27 ` Larry Kilgallen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-17 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <slrnbcc1d0.3c3.randhol+abuse@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no>, Preben Randhol <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> writes: > Stephane Richard wrote: >> Not sure what the problem could be....I just tried taking the survey and it >> worked perfectly fine for me. > > Did you by any chance use IE? > > I get the same problems here with Mozilla. The failures I got were while using Netscape Communicator. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 19:55 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-16 20:05 ` Stephane Richard @ 2003-05-19 15:16 ` Georg Bauhaus 2003-05-19 18:59 ` Larry Kilgallen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2003-05-19 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw) Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@spamcop.net> wrote: : I got a lot of visible HTML code and when I plowed through to the end : and clicked "Submit" it responded with "No answer is submitted.". Has your browser had to accept cookies? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 15:16 ` Georg Bauhaus @ 2003-05-19 18:59 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-19 19:03 ` Preben Randhol ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-19 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <baasfh$blf$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>, Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> writes: > Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@spamcop.net> wrote: > : I got a lot of visible HTML code and when I plowed through to the end > : and clicked "Submit" it responded with "No answer is submitted.". > > Has your browser had to accept cookies? Of course not. My browser settings are fully secured - no cookies, Java or JavaScript. And certainly I would not have filled out the survey if the start had said it required cookies. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 18:59 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-19 19:03 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-19 19:46 ` Wesley Groleau 2003-05-20 0:33 ` Georg Bauhaus [not found] ` <f5sop-4e3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com> 2 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 19:03 UTC (permalink / raw) Larry Kilgallen wrote: > Of course not. My browser settings are fully secured - no cookies, Java > or JavaScript. On my machine in Linux I have linked the cookie file to /dev/null so all the information just goes into the nothingness. The benifit is that cookie sites works for that session. However they are still in memory so I guess it is not safe. But at least I don't have the spying cookies accumulate on my machine :-) -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:03 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 19:46 ` Wesley Groleau 2003-05-19 19:50 ` Preben Randhol ` (3 more replies) 0 siblings, 4 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Wesley Groleau @ 2003-05-19 19:46 UTC (permalink / raw) Many browsers support one or more of the following settings: - Ask before accepting a cookie. - Remember whether you said "yes" or "no" and automatically apply the same answer next time to a request by the same hostname. - Delete all cookies when you exit the browser. Sending cookies to /dev/null means in those few cases where you will tolerate the cookie long enough to work the site, you have to fiddle with softlinks or whatever. But if you have NO such cases, then why not have your browser "Just say no" ? Most can do that, too. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:46 ` Wesley Groleau @ 2003-05-19 19:50 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-19 20:39 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-19 19:51 ` Preben Randhol ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 19:50 UTC (permalink / raw) Wesley Groleau wrote: > Many browsers support one or more of the following settings: > > - Ask before accepting a cookie. > > - Remember whether you said "yes" or "no" and > automatically apply the same answer next time > to a request by the same hostname. > > - Delete all cookies when you exit the browser. > > Sending cookies to /dev/null means in those few cases > where you will tolerate the cookie long enough to > work the site, you have to fiddle with softlinks or whatever. > > But if you have NO such cases, then why not have your browser > "Just say no" ? Most can do that, too. Because if you say no the sites say: Sorry your browser needs to accept cookies.... Exiting now. -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:50 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 20:39 ` Larry Kilgallen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-19 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <slrnbcidbl.7sv.randhol+abuse@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no>, Preben Randhol <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> writes: > Wesley Groleau wrote: >> But if you have NO such cases, then why not have your browser >> "Just say no" ? Most can do that, too. > > Because if you say no the sites say: Sorry your browser needs to accept > cookies.... Exiting now. I figure they need to learn a lesson by losing my custom. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:46 ` Wesley Groleau 2003-05-19 19:50 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 19:51 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-19 20:40 ` David C. Hoos 2003-05-19 21:49 ` Hyman Rosen 2003-05-20 2:43 ` Yaofei Chen 2003-05-20 10:49 ` Samuel Tardieu 3 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 19:51 UTC (permalink / raw) Wesley Groleau wrote: > Sending cookies to /dev/null means in those few cases > where you will tolerate the cookie long enough to > work the site, you have to fiddle with softlinks or whatever. What are softlinks? -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:51 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 20:40 ` David C. Hoos 2003-05-19 22:14 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-19 21:49 ` Hyman Rosen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: David C. Hoos @ 2003-05-19 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw) A softlink is a file pointing to a file or directory, and is created with ln -s. A "hard link" is created with ln (no -s), and can only be done on files. For example on my web site I have .tgz files hard linked to .tar.gz files, so that whichever extension the downloader prefers to use will get the same file. "Preben Randhol" <randhol+abuse@pvv.org> wrote in message news:slrnbcidec.7sv.randhol+abuse@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no... > Wesley Groleau wrote: > > Sending cookies to /dev/null means in those few cases > > where you will tolerate the cookie long enough to > > work the site, you have to fiddle with softlinks or whatever. > > What are softlinks? > > -- > Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ > _______________________________________________ > comp.lang.ada mailing list > comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org > http://ada.eu.org/mailman/listinfo/comp.lang.ada > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 20:40 ` David C. Hoos @ 2003-05-19 22:14 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-20 3:59 ` Wesley Groleau 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw) David C. Hoos wrote: > A softlink is a file pointing to a file or directory, and is > created with ln -s. > > A "hard link" is created with ln (no -s), and can only be > done on files. For example on my web site I have > .tgz files hard linked to .tar.gz files, so that whichever > extension the downloader prefers to use will get the > same file. Ah! I missunderstood completely I though he was refering to HTML and cookies. OK, but now I really don't understand what "you have to fiddle with softlinks or whatever" means. Doing ln -s /dev/null cookei.txt is not hard. With Mozilla the cookies are stored in *one* file and not thousands like with IE. -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 22:14 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-20 3:59 ` Wesley Groleau 2003-05-20 11:57 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Wesley Groleau @ 2003-05-20 3:59 UTC (permalink / raw) > Ah! I missunderstood completely I though he was refering to HTML and > cookies. OK, but now I really don't understand what "you have to fiddle > with softlinks or whatever" means. Doing ln -s /dev/null cookei.txt is > not hard. With Mozilla the cookies are stored in *one* file and not thousands > like with IE. The thing is, if you send cookie to the bit bucket, and then you decide you actually want to do something that requires cookie exchange, you have to undo it at a prompt. If you just disable cookies via preferences in the browser, it's a tiny bit easier to toggle them back on. Or, as I suggested, Mozilla and others will let you specify "This site can swap cookies, the others can't" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-20 3:59 ` Wesley Groleau @ 2003-05-20 11:57 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-20 11:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Wesley Groleau wrote: > The thing is, if you send cookie to the bit bucket, > and then you decide you actually want to do something > that requires cookie exchange, you have to undo it > at a prompt. If you just disable cookies via preferences > in the browser, it's a tiny bit easier to toggle them back on. Understand now. Well, at the moment there are no sites that I use where I need the cookie to persist on my system. If it were I would use Opera on that site. > Or, as I suggested, Mozilla and others will let you specify > "This site can swap cookies, the others can't" Hmm, I think I should get updated on the changes. Didn't know it could do that now. Sounds great though. -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:51 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-19 20:40 ` David C. Hoos @ 2003-05-19 21:49 ` Hyman Rosen 2003-05-19 22:18 ` Preben Randhol 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Hyman Rosen @ 2003-05-19 21:49 UTC (permalink / raw) Preben Randhol wrote: > What are softlinks? They're UNIXy things. In UNIX, the unique designator for a file is called an "inode" and represents a numeric index into a data structure containing the files of a filesystem. Directories consist of pairs of inode numbers and names. Thus, it's perfectly possible for the same inode, and thus its file, to be known by many names. These many names of a file are called hard links. (The "hard" is a back formation which came about after soft links were invented, like "analog" watches.) Because hard links represent a pointer into the filesystem, you cannot make hard links point to files in different filesystems. This became an increasing handicap as the number of filesystems on a computer grew. So soft links were invented. A soft link is simply a file which holds the name of another file, and is specially marked as being such. When someone attempts to open a named soft link, the file to which it links is opened instead. Soft links cause much more complexity than hard links. It's possible for the target of a soft link to be missing, or to create circular chains of links. They're subject to race conditions, and opening long chains of them can be slow. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 21:49 ` Hyman Rosen @ 2003-05-19 22:18 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-19 22:18 UTC (permalink / raw) Hyman Rosen wrote: > Preben Randhol wrote: >> What are softlinks? > [explanation of softlinks] Thanks. I got confused by the discussion so I thought he was talking about something to do with HTML and cookies and not softlinks which I know well as I use them frequently. Sorry about the mixup. -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:46 ` Wesley Groleau 2003-05-19 19:50 ` Preben Randhol 2003-05-19 19:51 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-20 2:43 ` Yaofei Chen 2003-05-20 3:04 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-20 4:02 ` Wesley Groleau 2003-05-20 10:49 ` Samuel Tardieu 3 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Yaofei Chen @ 2003-05-20 2:43 UTC (permalink / raw) We do use cookie, just don't want one guy to fill the survey multiple times. That is our only purpose. Thanks again for your participation! :-) Wesley Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<oaGcnSkEFJ0-qVSjXTWcqw@gbronline.com>... > Many browsers support one or more of the following settings: > > - Ask before accepting a cookie. > > - Remember whether you said "yes" or "no" and > automatically apply the same answer next time > to a request by the same hostname. > > - Delete all cookies when you exit the browser. > > Sending cookies to /dev/null means in those few cases > where you will tolerate the cookie long enough to > work the site, you have to fiddle with softlinks or whatever. > > But if you have NO such cases, then why not have your browser > "Just say no" ? Most can do that, too. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-20 2:43 ` Yaofei Chen @ 2003-05-20 3:04 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-20 4:02 ` Wesley Groleau 1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-20 3:04 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <1b2f70c3.0305191843.4b86e1cc@posting.google.com>, yxc1856@njit.edu (Yaofei Chen) writes: > We do use cookie, just don't want one guy to fill the survey multiple > times. That is our only purpose. But you do want people with cookies disabled to go through the process to no avail, by not announcing it in your posting here !!! And what makes you think someone who really wanted to disturb your results would not just erase the cookies ? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-20 2:43 ` Yaofei Chen 2003-05-20 3:04 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-20 4:02 ` Wesley Groleau 2003-05-20 11:55 ` Preben Randhol 1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread From: Wesley Groleau @ 2003-05-20 4:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Yaofei Chen wrote: > We do use cookie, just don't want one guy to fill the survey multiple > times. That is our only purpose. Doesn't work. If I wanted to "stuff the ballot box" I could turn on cookies, fill out the form, trash my cookie file, fill out the form, trash my cookie file, fill out the form, ..... ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-20 4:02 ` Wesley Groleau @ 2003-05-20 11:55 ` Preben Randhol 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-20 11:55 UTC (permalink / raw) Wesley Groleau wrote: > Yaofei Chen wrote: >> We do use cookie, just don't want one guy to fill the survey multiple >> times. That is our only purpose. > > Doesn't work. If I wanted to "stuff the ballot box" > I could turn on cookies, fill out the form, trash my cookie file, > fill out the form, trash my cookie file, fill out the form, ..... Or link it to /dev/null and restart the browser ;-) -- Preben Randhol http://www.pvv.org/~randhol/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 19:46 ` Wesley Groleau ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2003-05-20 2:43 ` Yaofei Chen @ 2003-05-20 10:49 ` Samuel Tardieu 3 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Samuel Tardieu @ 2003-05-20 10:49 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Wes" == Wesley Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com> writes: Wes> Sending cookies to /dev/null means in those few cases where you Wes> will tolerate the cookie long enough to work the site, you have Wes> to fiddle with softlinks or whatever. Do you know any browser which don't keep cookies acquired in the current browsing session in memory and need to store them and reload them from the disk? I don't. Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-19 18:59 ` Larry Kilgallen 2003-05-19 19:03 ` Preben Randhol @ 2003-05-20 0:33 ` Georg Bauhaus [not found] ` <f5sop-4e3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com> 2 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2003-05-20 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw) Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@spamcop.net> wrote: : In article <baasfh$blf$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>, Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> writes: :> :> Has your browser had to accept cookies? : : Of course not. My browser settings are fully secured - no cookies, Java : or JavaScript. That might explain a few things. They did send cookies, ASPs in the background, and they might have done tracking using cookies (an alternative beeing URL-rewriting). When finally results are to be stored, a uniqueness check might have to be done first, using the session cookie (HTTP beeing stateless, the request, and therefore the data, might have come from anywhere). Cookies are potentially evil if and only if the browser software does not give you control over them; in particular, it should be possible to prevent programs from reading cookies, and to protect cookies such that only the originating site may request them, and only with your consent. Wesley Groleau has listed some possibilities, Mozilla has quite extensive support for cookie control. Cookies can be useful! In a decent browser, they can act as a token somewhat like a tag in a tagged type for its identification, or like an enum value. (Somehow an HTTP server must know the origin of the page it receives in circumstances like a survey; to use something other than cookies one could use hidden content in a web page that is generated when a new request for the survey page is made, somehow coding the originators IP address as well; but IP addresses may be dynamic, and the process is similar to generating a session cookie anyway. In addition, cookies may be useful in (server side) state tracking, e.g. when the client browser software has crashed. the server may then send the proper page on resumption, if the cookie still provides enough information.) With a good browser, cookies aren't seen by any machine not explicitely listed by you. If a server uses URL-rewriting instead (like Apple's WebObjects), the rewritten URL is not too different from a cookie HTTP header, as far as sniffing protection is concerned. Anyway, any site using cookies could explain why they do so, and send some explanatory comments. -- Georg ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
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* Re: Programming Language Survey [not found] ` <f5sop-4e3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com> @ 2003-05-20 11:30 ` Larry Kilgallen 0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-20 11:30 UTC (permalink / raw) In article <f5sop-4e3.ln1@beastie.ix.netcom.com>, Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com> writes: > Larry Kilgallen fed this fish to the penguins on Monday 19 May 2003 > 11:59 am: > > >> And certainly I would not have filled out the survey if the start >> had said it required cookies. > > The mere fact that it seems (from looking at the first question page) > to use individual pages for the questions, the only way to keep track > of which answers belong together is to concatenate them into a cookie > as you go along. Another method is the use of hidden fields. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 19:20 Programming Language Survey Yaofei Chen 2003-05-16 19:55 ` Larry Kilgallen @ 2003-05-16 20:44 ` Samuel Tardieu 2003-05-17 17:57 ` Yaofei Chen 2003-05-19 15:05 ` Georg Bauhaus 1 sibling, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Samuel Tardieu @ 2003-05-16 20:44 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "Yaofei" == Yaofei Chen <yxc1856@njit.edu> writes: Yaofei> We are doing a survey for Programming Language Trend Yaofei> right now. If you have interest, please visit Yaofei> http://swlab.njit.edu/techwatch to participate our survey. You should first learn HTML. For your information, " " MUST be terminated by ";" if you don't want it to appear as plain " " in HTML compliant browsers. Your first question gives: | Currently, do you know any of the following programming languages? |  1.  ADA |  2.  ALGOL |  3.  APL |  4.  BASIC |  5.  C | [...] Sam -- Samuel Tardieu -- sam@rfc1149.net -- http://www.rfc1149.net/sam ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 20:44 ` Samuel Tardieu @ 2003-05-17 17:57 ` Yaofei Chen 2003-05-19 15:05 ` Georg Bauhaus 1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Yaofei Chen @ 2003-05-17 17:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net> wrote in message news:<87u1bufwq5.fsf@inf.enst.fr>... > >>>>> "Yaofei" == Yaofei Chen <yxc1856@njit.edu> writes: > > Yaofei> We are doing a survey for Programming Language Trend > Yaofei> right now. If you have interest, please visit > Yaofei> http://swlab.njit.edu/techwatch to participate our survey. > > You should first learn HTML. For your information, " " MUST be > terminated by ";" if you don't want it to appear as plain " " in > HTML compliant browsers. > > Your first question gives: > > | Currently, do you know any of the following programming languages? > |  1.  ADA > |  2.  ALGOL > |  3.  APL > |  4.  BASIC > |  5.  C > | [...] > > Sam Fixed the buggy HTML. :-) Thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: Programming Language Survey 2003-05-16 20:44 ` Samuel Tardieu 2003-05-17 17:57 ` Yaofei Chen @ 2003-05-19 15:05 ` Georg Bauhaus 1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread From: Georg Bauhaus @ 2003-05-19 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw) Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net> wrote: : : You should first learn HTML. For your information, " " MUST be : terminated by ";" Only if it isn't terminated by record end (RE), or otherwise omissable. [61] reference end = ( refc | [;] RE )? In XHTML, you must add ';'. Still: : if you don't want it to appear as plain " " in : HTML compliant browsers. : : Your first question gives: : : | Currently, do you know any of the following programming languages? : |  1.  ADA Additionally, there probably is no entity named "nbspALGOL" defined in any of the included entity reference sets? : |  2.  ALGOL : |  3.  APL : |  4.  BASIC : |  5.  C : | [...] : : Sam -- Georg ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
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