Re: Quality systems

[Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@d2-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>]

In comp.lang.ada soft-eng <softeng3456@netscape.net> wrote:
: [in response to what the let-go management does when confronted
: with "problematic programmers"]
: Though once, when a bunch of Ph.D.s were trying to make things
: happen contrary to the corporate culture by using hierarchical
: leverage, the group was very quickly disbanded and placed in
: separate positions (presumably so they could do less harm.)

I might have misread the article, but I was under the impression
that higher ranking management intervened to remove influence
of some "architecture people" to let the programmer go on inventing
macro support for an MS product. He seems not to have been a
problem in the eyes of this part of management, so this part
of managment intervened and "removed" a lower ranking part of
"non-programmers". The question was about how they manage
"problematic" programmers.
According to a TV documentation about former long time MS employees,
if you become a problem for management,
management will issue one warning, and give you the freedom
of correcting the problem yourself... And that is not exactly
managing problematic situations in my view, it is removing the
situations together with the peple involved. There is a saying,
in German, about a bath and a child, and emptying the bath tub.
Is that known in English?
Consider that, seemingly, you are allowed to
work as long as you like in MS buildings; one might point out that
the smart management has no problem at all leading the way to
burn-out. A Bill Gates publication about his view of computing
business future adds further corroborations. Good old
Benjamin Franklin. Are Gates and Balmer protestants, BTW?

So there might be a premise for complete programming freedom:
total engagement, with dismissal pending otherwise (that is, showing 
only non-total engagement, which is the usual healthy case in
general, or isn't it?)  They said, the avery age of programmers
within MS is around 23 or 24 years. Usually, alcoholism starts
later, family "duties" start later, "settlement" comes later. I'd
like to know how they deal with that.

My OT view, georg