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* generics as illness -;)  (was: Re: Anybody ...)
@ 2003-01-04 23:36 Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
  2003-01-05 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  2003-01-06  4:52 ` Kevin Cline
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From: Alexandre E. Kopilovitch @ 2003-01-04 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw)


Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote:
>
>"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
>
> > Generics in any form is an illness of programming languages.
>
>Why?

Perhaps the origin of this feeling is that they (generics, templates, etc.)
are unclear conceptually, above the programming level. 
  But there is good exception: functors in Standard ML.






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* Re: generics as illness -;)  (was: Re: Anybody ...)
  2003-01-04 23:36 generics as illness -;) (was: Re: Anybody ...) Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
@ 2003-01-05 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
  2003-01-06  4:52 ` Kevin Cline
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Dmitry A. Kazakov @ 2003-01-05 14:13 UTC (permalink / raw)


Alexandre E. Kopilovitch wrote:

> Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
>>
>> > Generics in any form is an illness of programming languages.
>>
>>Why?
> 
> Perhaps the origin of this feeling is that they (generics, templates,
> etc.) are unclear conceptually, above the programming level.

Yes. [I tried to explain my point of view in the original thread]

> But there is good exception: functors in Standard ML.

Unfortunately I do not know about Standard ML.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de



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* Re: generics as illness -;)  (was: Re: Anybody ...)
  2003-01-04 23:36 generics as illness -;) (was: Re: Anybody ...) Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
  2003-01-05 14:13 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
@ 2003-01-06  4:52 ` Kevin Cline
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Cline @ 2003-01-06  4:52 UTC (permalink / raw)


"Alexandre E. Kopilovitch" <aek@vib.usr.pu.ru> wrote in message news:<mailman.1041723482.14856.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org>...
> Robert A Duff <bobduff@shell01.TheWorld.com> wrote:
> >
> >"Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> writes:
> >
> > > Generics in any form is an illness of programming languages.
> >
> >Why?
> 
> Perhaps the origin of this feeling is that they (generics, templates, etc.)
> are unclear conceptually, above the programming level. 

I don't find them unclear at all.  And what alternative solution is proposed?
Java doesn't have generics and as a result Java containers are not type-safe.
So some rather weak form of generics is being added to Java.



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