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From: Per Sandberg <per.sandberg@bredband.net>
Subject: Re: 'Base
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:43:35 +0100
Date: 2005-12-14T20:43:35+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bB_nf.15339$fi4.1728@newsfe10.ams> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wvbrwtia65j5.fsf@sun.com>

Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen wrote:
> My gut reaction was also that Ada will always outperform Java, but I
> have found at least one case there this is not true.  I recently wrote
> a simple test program to transpose a two-dimensional array in Java,
> Ada, C++, and C. The purpose was not really to compare languages, but
> to see the effects of caching. There were two different alogrithms
> used, one a simple nested loop, the other a recursive subdivision with
> a nested loop at the lowest level. When the simple nested loop was
> tested with large data sets (~ available RAM on the machines) the
> diffence between Ada, C, and C++ was insignificant, all being 3-4
> times faster than Java. However, when testing the recursive version, I
> found that Java was actually about 10% faster than the other three,
> which again came extremely close to each other. Apparently the JIT
> compiler had plenty of time to do its work and come up with pretty
> optimal code. The other interesting result from the experiment was
> that the recursive  version was from 3-4 to 20 times faster than the
> simple nested loop.
> 
> 
> 
>>>>>>"MK" == Martin Krischik <krischik@users.sourceforge.net> writes:
> 
> <snip>
>     MK> Ada arrays are not a primitive type - they are a quite complex and powerfull
>     MK> type.
> 
>     MK> Performace? Ada allways outperform Java for a start. But Ada's build in
>     MK> checks will also outperform C/C++ when used with all appropriate
>     MK> "assert()"s in place.
> 
> <snip>

This is intresting but i have tried Ada (GNAT/GCC) with different 
optimisation levels and different validity checking.
and fount that ther is a clearly visible diference in performance 
depending on how far the compiler is allowed to go in terms of optimisation.
I have not done any qualified measurments but the guts feeling is that 
the performace may change bye a factor of at least 2 depending on 
compiler switches.
Also worth to mention that as far as i have seen ther is normaly areound 
30% difference in performace when going from "-O0" to "-Os".

/Per



  parent reply	other threads:[~2005-12-14 19:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-12-08 15:21 'Base ada_student
2005-12-08 18:08 ` 'Base Matthew Heaney
2005-12-08 18:44   ` 'Base Martin Dowie
2005-12-08 18:49     ` 'Base Martin Dowie
2005-12-08 19:24     ` 'Base Matthew Heaney
2005-12-08 20:27       ` 'Base Martin Dowie
2005-12-08 19:51     ` 'Base Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-12-08 20:07       ` 'Base Matthew Heaney
2005-12-09  2:57         ` 'Base Randy Brukardt
2005-12-09  2:13   ` Avoiding constraint checks w/ 'Base Anonymous Coward
2005-12-09  3:11     ` Randy Brukardt
2005-12-09 13:11   ` 'Base krischik
2005-12-09 13:52     ` 'Base Matthew Heaney
2005-12-09 20:42       ` 'Base Randy Brukardt
2005-12-08 19:11 ` 'Base Martin Krischik
2005-12-09 20:42   ` 'Base ada_student
2005-12-09 21:39     ` 'Base Pascal Obry
2005-12-10  3:30     ` 'Base Matthew Heaney
2005-12-10 14:50       ` 'Base ada_student
2005-12-10  7:52     ` 'Base Martin Krischik
2005-12-10 12:55       ` 'Base Larry Kilgallen
2005-12-10 13:37         ` 'Base Björn Persson
2005-12-11 11:00           ` 'Base Martin Krischik
2005-12-10 15:01         ` 'Base Robert A Duff
2005-12-11 10:59         ` 'Base Martin Krischik
2005-12-12  9:14       ` 'Base Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2005-12-12 19:08         ` 'Base Martin Krischik
2005-12-13 19:24           ` 'Base tmoran
2005-12-13 21:00         ` 'Base Georg Bauhaus
2005-12-14 19:43         ` Per Sandberg [this message]
2005-12-15 20:08           ` 'Base Martin Krischik
2005-12-16 19:19             ` 'Base Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-12-17  7:52               ` 'Base Martin Krischik
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