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From: Volkert.Barr@freenet.de (Volkert)
Subject: Re: Refactoring and Ada
Date: 3 Feb 2002 01:45:05 -0800
Date: 2002-02-03T09:45:06+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b84db440.0202030145.1d1edff3@posting.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3C5AB0B7.9D75D49A@grammatech.com

Paul Anderson <paul@grammatech.com> wrote in message news:<3C5AB0B7.9D75D49A@grammatech.com>...
>As part of a government research contract, we are developing a
>Refactoring editor for Ada.  I am interested in soliciting opinions
>from the group about Refactoring and Ada.
the idea is great! Especially the idea of doing the sematical 
preserving transformations with support of a tool. In my eyes, 
this all seems quite complex for Ada, but all Ada programers 
would like to see such a tool. 

>I am interested in finding out if there are any Ada projects out there
>that actively use refactoring.  If so, what refactorings do you use?
>Are they just like the Java ones, or are there features of Ada that
>mandate special-purpose refactorings?  What features would you like to
>see in a refactoring editor for Ada?
All the stuff like schema refactorings (consitant renaming and moving 
of packages, types, procedures, inherit, push_down/push up 
primitive operations, ...), function-to-procedure translation,
pattern integration ... but to my best knowledge, i don't know any 
documented refactorings for Ada in the quality of Martin Fowlers 
Refactoring-Book! 

Several month ago i asked in a german ada mailing list for support
to initiate an Ada Refactoring Tool. No interest. One person from 
R*ti*al mentioned, that their ApexTool can do most the refactoring 
stuff. I think, i was completely misunderstood about this topic.

To do more sophisticated refactorings in Ada you need a very good
a metamodel along with a set of transformation rules. A long
long way ... ASIS may be a good starting point, but makes in not
possible manipulate the Abstract Syntax Tree directly ...

Volkert Barr

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-02-03  9:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-02-01 15:13 Refactoring and Ada Paul Anderson
2002-02-02 17:48 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-02 20:36   ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03  0:21     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 13:53       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:23         ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:17           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-04 20:48             ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04 22:31               ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-04 22:43                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-06  2:51                 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-03 18:50       ` Simon Wright
2002-02-04  4:32     ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 12:28       ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-02-04 17:03         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:19           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-04 17:59       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-04 18:50         ` Pascal Obry
2002-02-05  1:07           ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-05  1:44         ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-06 17:42           ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-06 17:32         ` Robert A Duff
2002-02-07  8:45         ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-07 13:54           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-03 13:48   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-03 19:38     ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-04  2:20       ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 21:21       ` Paul Anderson
2002-02-03  9:45 ` Volkert [this message]
2002-02-04  0:06 ` Refactoring and Ada (tool I'd like to have...) David Emery
2002-02-08  9:24 ` Refactoring and Ada Martin Dowie
2002-02-08 15:15   ` Ted Dennison
2002-02-08 15:52     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-08 16:07       ` OT : " martin.m.dowie
2002-02-08 17:11         ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-09 19:46           ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-09 23:04             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-10 13:57               ` Martin Dowie
2002-02-08 16:06     ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-08 17:07       ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-09 19:48         ` martin.m.dowie
2002-02-09 23:05           ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-10  1:30     ` Marc A. Criley
2002-02-10  2:58       ` tmoran
2002-02-11 15:27       ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-12 19:16         ` Simon Wright
2002-02-15 19:43           ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-15 20:33           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-15 21:40             ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-19 16:54               ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-19 19:39                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-20  4:23                   ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-20  5:20                     ` Mark Biggar
2002-02-20  9:58                     ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 17:14                       ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 17:18                         ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-20 18:08                           ` Matthew Heaney
2002-02-20 22:12                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-23 22:48                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-21  0:41                           ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-21  1:31                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 14:37                             ` Pat Rogers
2002-02-22 21:23                               ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:04                                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-25 20:26                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-23 23:21                                 ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-23 22:58                             ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-23 22:55                     ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-26  1:05                       ` Nick Roberts
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-02-05  6:15 Christoph Grein
2002-02-07 11:26 Christoph Grein
2002-02-07 18:31 ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-08 12:45   ` Robert Dewar
2002-02-08 17:20     ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-02-20  6:19 Christoph Grein
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