From: "Marin David Condic" <mcondic.auntie.spam@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Unchecked_Deallocation subtleties
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:02:49 -0400
Date: 2003-04-10T12:03:09+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <b73mht$g7t$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 873ckr979l.fsf@inf.enst.fr
Samuel Tardieu <sam@rfc1149.net> wrote in message
news:873ckr979l.fsf@inf.enst.fr...
>
> I agree, but the RM deliberately ignores such a factor. Otherwise, no
> function would ever be Pure in the RM sense, as the omission of the
> call would never yield the same "result".
>
Obviously, as a language standard, it must for the most part ignore time. It
can't account for how something gets implemented, so trying to address time
becomes problematic. In probably 99.9% of the applications, time doesn't
matter, so if a function takes more or less time dealing with the
off-nominal case, nobody much cares. But put that call in a selective wait
with a delay alternative and suddenly you might see different program
behavior if the off-nominal case changes the timing.
I just brought it up as a reminder that "no effect" from the ARM perspective
is not equivalent to "no observable difference in the real world". The ARM
concern is that there be no semantic effect. A call to a deallocate routine
with a null pointer might cause the rectal extraction of several flying
monkeys, but so long as the program continues to compute what the ARM
expects, its happy. :-)
MDC
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-04-09 9:10 Unchecked_Deallocation subtleties Piotr Zgorecki
2003-04-09 9:46 ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-09 12:19 ` Marin David Condic
2003-04-09 12:37 ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-10 12:02 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2003-04-09 16:54 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-09 20:19 ` Nick Roberts
2003-04-09 21:39 ` Samuel Tardieu
2003-04-10 11:37 ` Nick Roberts
2003-04-10 14:39 ` Robert Spooner
2003-04-10 16:39 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2003-04-09 19:50 ` Nick Roberts
2003-04-10 15:04 ` Nick Roberts
2003-04-10 16:40 ` chris.danx
2003-04-14 23:42 ` Keith Thompson
2003-04-15 1:54 ` Nick Roberts
2003-04-15 12:00 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-04-15 12:13 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2003-04-19 8:57 ` AG
2003-04-09 21:23 ` Randy Brukardt
2003-04-10 11:49 ` Nick Roberts
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