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From: Christopher Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org>
Subject: Re: non military license for ada
Date: 14 Mar 2003 20:52:16 GMT
Date: 2003-03-14T20:52:16+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4tfe0$24krnp$1@ID-125932.news.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.2.1047667002.16695.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org

Martha Stewart called it a Good Thing whensk <noname@myob.com>wrote:
> The trouble is, these politicians are beholden to
> specialized interests ... tobacco, arms etc.

.. And the former points out a probably more interesting case.

A dozen years ago, would-be-pacifists liked to make up licenses
forbidding "military use" or its use by anyone having anything to do
with South Africa (because they had heard somewhere that Apartheid Was
Bad and should be protested), which generally led to the resultant
software being considered an irrelevant curiosity because evaluating
whether particular use was legal or not just wasn't worth doing.

Today, "everyone" knows that the tobacco industry is bad, evil, and
such, and so it would be perfectly sensible to forbid use of your
software by the "tobacco industry," right?

So Philip Morris and Company shouldn't use the code.

But what are the /real/ implications?  Should it just by PM&C?  Or
should it also be their ad agency?  (Probably) 

But how about some subsidiary that PM&C owns that has nothing really
to do with tobacco?

In Canada, our "poster child" on this was the Imperial Tobacco
Company, which (at one point) owned:
 a) Shoppers Drug Mart, the biggest national chain of drug stores, and
 b) Canada Trust, one of the better financial institutions.

Should SDM and CT be permitted to use the software?  Or are they
boycotted too?  

And if they /are/ boycotted, does this not run the risk of making
/everyone/ steer clear of your software, thus leading to the software
being an irrelevant curiosity?

That oughtn't be an easy set of questions to answer...
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-03-14 20:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-03-14 10:43 non military license for ada Tony Gair
2003-03-14 11:21 ` Jeffrey Creem
2003-03-14 15:32 ` Victor Porton
2003-03-14 15:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-14 17:49 ` Stephen Leake
2003-03-14 18:34 ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-15 10:20   ` Tony Gair
2003-03-14 18:42 ` sk
2003-03-14 20:52   ` Christopher Browne [this message]
2003-03-14 21:00     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-03-14 21:19     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-14 22:51       ` chris.danx
2003-03-14 23:33         ` sk
2003-03-15  0:52           ` chris.danx
2003-03-15  9:54             ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-15  9:52         ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-15 19:31           ` chris.danx
2003-03-16 10:42             ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-17  8:31               ` Tony Gair
2003-03-16 20:00             ` Michael Bode
2003-03-17  8:20       ` Tony Gair
2003-03-17 16:38         ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18  0:44           ` Tony Gair
2003-03-18  3:30             ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18  5:38               ` tmoran
2003-03-18  6:43                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18 10:53               ` Tony Gair
2003-03-18 11:26                 ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-18 15:49                   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18 16:13                     ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-19  9:51                     ` Tony Gair
2003-03-19 16:29                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-19 16:39                         ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-19 17:26                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-19 19:27                             ` Preben Randhol
2003-03-19 19:37                               ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-19 19:42                               ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-03-19 20:51                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-20  0:41                                   ` chris.danx
2003-03-20  0:58                                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2003-03-20  5:47                                     ` Pascal Obry
2003-03-20  3:32                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-20 12:57                                   ` chris.danx
2003-03-20 15:03                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-19 20:55                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-20  0:28                               ` chris.danx
2003-03-20  3:02                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-20  3:16                         ` Christopher Browne
2003-03-20  3:29                           ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-20  5:29                             ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-03-20  5:53                               ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-20  6:50                                 ` Dale Stanbrough
2003-03-20  3:33                       ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                       ` <1048091365.478422@master.nyc.kbcfOrganization: LJK Software <wX1KOA4AzqL7@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2003-03-20 11:56                         ` Marin David Condic
2003-03-19 11:33                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-19 21:27                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-19 21:42                       ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18 20:22                   ` 1000 Km Off Topic: " Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-18 20:29                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18 20:35                     ` Frank J. Lhota
2003-03-18 21:01                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-18 21:32                     ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-18 21:51                   ` Larry Kilgallen
2003-03-20  8:21               ` sk
2003-03-15  5:15   ` Richard Riehle
2003-03-15 12:47   ` Faust
2003-03-14 21:28 ` sk
2003-03-15  1:21 ` Stephane Richard
2003-03-15 14:05   ` Georg Bauhaus
2003-03-16  8:39 ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-16 19:07   ` sk
2003-03-23 11:28     ` Florian Weimer
2003-03-19 23:28 ` Tony Gair
2003-03-20  3:11   ` Hyman Rosen
2003-03-20 13:37 ` Frank
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