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From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: GNAT vs UTF-8 source file names
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:30:02 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2017-07-04T10:30:02-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b4c7079c-8c00-4c7f-938f-87f031172923@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lyeftw2tlc.fsf@pushface.org>

On Tuesday, July 4, 2017 at 7:57:06 AM UTC-6, Simon Wright wrote:
> 
> It's worse than that, on macOS anyway[2].
> 
> $ GNAT_FILE_NAME_CASE_SENSITIVE=1 gnatmake -c p*.ads
> gcc -c páck3.ads
> páck3.ads:1:10: warning: file name does not match unit name, should be "páck3.ads"
> 
> The reason for this apparently-bizarre message is[3] that macOS takes 
> the composed form (lowercase a acute) and converts it under the hood 
> to what HFS+ insists on, the fully decomposed form (lowercase a, combining 
> acute); thus the names are actually different even though they _look_ 
> the same.

This is why I maintain that unicode is crap -- a mistake along the lines of C that will likely take *decades* for the rest of "the industry" / computer science to realize.

> 
> I have to say that, great as it would be to have this fixed, the changes 
> required would be extensive, and I can’t see that anyone would think it 
> worth the trouble.

One of unicode's biggest problems is that there's no longer any coherent vision -- it started off as a idea to offer one code-point per character in human language, but then shifted to glyph-building (hence combining characters), and as such lacks a unifying principle.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-04 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-30 17:10 GNAT vs UTF-8 source file names Simon Wright
2017-06-17 17:20 ` Simon Wright
2017-06-27 13:22   ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-06-27 21:45     ` Niklas Holsti
2017-06-28  5:05       ` G.B.
2017-07-04 13:57   ` Simon Wright
2017-07-04 17:30     ` Shark8 [this message]
2017-07-04 18:08       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2017-07-05  5:25       ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-06 15:18         ` Shark8
2017-07-07  8:19           ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-05  5:21     ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-05  9:47       ` Simon Wright
2017-07-05 11:20         ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-05 18:42           ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-06 18:43           ` Simon Wright
2017-07-07  8:26             ` J-P. Rosen
2017-07-07 11:01               ` Simon Wright
2017-07-07 11:49                 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2017-07-07 19:44                   ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-07 19:40                 ` Randy Brukardt
2017-07-07 21:02                   ` Simon Wright
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