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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components
Date: Sat, 22 Jun 2013 19:41:00 +0300
Date: 2013-06-22T19:41:00+03:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b2m2csFh64iU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <wccwqpnux8n.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>

On 13-06-21 21:36 , Robert A Duff wrote:

> I share your disdain for what you called "opaque" types -- it forces you
> into heap management, which leads to extra trouble.  But I object to
> calling them "opaque" types.  Ada folks usually call them "stt access
> types" and "stt incomplete types", or "Taft amendment types", because
> they were invented by Tucker Taft and added to Ada 83 at the last minute
> when nobody realized all the headaches they cause for compiler writers.
> The term "opaque type" comes from Modula-2, IIRC, and is more like
> an Ada private type, with some annoying restrictions added.

According to the Modula-2 Reference at
http://www.modula2.org/reference/modules.php, when a Modula-2 definition
module declares an opaque type,

"The corresponding implementation module must contain a full type
declaration for any opaque types declared in the definition module.  The
full type declaration must define a pointer type."

I take this to mean that a Modula-2 opaque type uses indirection through
a pointer type, just as the "stt access types" in Ada, and unlike Ada
private types in general.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-22 16:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-21  8:43 Ada202X: Easy to use "UML private"-like components Martin
2013-06-21  9:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21  9:33   ` Martin
2013-06-21 10:14     ` G.B.
2013-06-21 11:19       ` Martin
2013-06-21 14:51     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-22 11:16       ` Martin
2013-06-22 12:10         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-21 18:36 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-22 16:41   ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2013-06-22 19:05     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-22 22:57       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23  3:26         ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-06-23  7:32           ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-23 13:12             ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 14:06               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 15:15                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:52                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-23 23:38                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24  7:16                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-24 20:11                         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25  7:21                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-06-25 19:06                             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:07                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 14:40               ` Shark8
2013-06-23 15:28                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 18:14                   ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-23 23:43                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-23 23:48                       ` Bill Findlay
2013-06-24 20:16                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 20:05               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25  1:09                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:37                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-23 12:28         ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-24 20:20           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-24 21:40             ` Niklas Holsti
2013-06-25  0:43               ` Robert A Duff
2013-06-25 19:23                 ` Randy Brukardt
2013-06-25 19:19               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-07-09 11:24   ` Martin
2013-07-09 14:39     ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10  7:03       ` Martin
2013-07-09 21:43     ` Robert A Duff
2013-07-10  6:34       ` Martin
2013-07-10  8:24         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-07-10 13:06           ` Martin
2013-07-10 16:12     ` Simon Wright
2013-07-10 18:22       ` Martin
2013-07-10 19:41         ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 18:28           ` Martin
2013-07-11 19:37             ` Simon Wright
2013-07-11 20:43               ` Martin
2013-07-12  6:57                 ` Simon Wright
2013-07-12  8:05                   ` Martin
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