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From: Britt Snodgrass <britt.snodgrass@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: About String
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:27:05 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2008-06-09T07:27:05-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1f12880-b826-4a64-bd5c-66cb005d69bc@p25g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 484d0d5c$0$7537$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net

On Jun 9, 6:00 am, Georg Bauhaus <rm.dash-bauh...@futureapps.de>
wrote:
> Robert A Duff schrieb:
>
> > Maciej Sobczak <see.my.homep...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> >> You did not state it explicitly, but I presume that you allow mixing
> >> declarations with executable code ("as in Java and other languages")?
>
> > Yes, if I ran the circus, I would allow that.  I really find it annoying
> > that I have to add 3 useless lines of code (declare/begin/end) and an
> > extra level of indentation, when all I wanted to do was declare
> > a very-local object.
>
> I find it annoying when I have to search other people's
> procedures for variables. A typical sequence of statements is
> sprinkled with declarations (Java, C, Perl, ...) and no oher
> indication of the newly introduced variables other than
> two identifiers before "=" or ";".
>
> As Dmitry says, there is an *implicit* scope only.
> When I'm up the wall I speculate whether this viewpoint on language
> use is driven by a desire to achieve income by obfuscation?
> The tempting quick hack?
>
> To me,  ad hoc variables between statements and Java classes fully
> named in source but without "import" at the head of the source file
> are similar in character.
>
> The good news is: computers can help us with getting the
> necessary "paper work" (declare block etc.) done; use a
> good editor.

I very much agree. The requirement for an explicit declaritive region
is a very good thing for reasons of readability and maintainability.
If variables could be declared anywhere in a procedure then it really
would be a circus.

- Britt



  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-09 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-06 17:29 About String Sébastien Morand
2008-06-07 16:18 ` Simon Wright
2008-06-07 17:01   ` Pascal Obry
2008-06-07 22:13     ` Chris Moore
2008-06-08  6:47       ` Niklas Holsti
2008-06-08  7:35         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 10:29           ` Sebastien Morand
2008-06-08 10:53             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 11:14           ` Niklas Holsti
2008-06-08 13:16             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 17:17               ` Niklas Holsti
2008-06-09  7:26                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 11:48           ` Martin
2008-06-08 13:17             ` Conditional declarations (was: About String) Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-08 18:26           ` About String Chris Moore
2008-06-08 18:32         ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-08 20:51           ` Maciej Sobczak
2008-06-08 21:19             ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-09  7:14               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-09  9:43                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-09 10:25                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-09 10:42                     ` Sébastien Morand
2008-06-09 11:43                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-09 12:03                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-15 19:38                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-15 20:52                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-15 22:06                     ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-16  8:31                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-16 19:17                         ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-16 20:30                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2008-06-16 22:02                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-16 23:04                             ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-09 11:00               ` Georg Bauhaus
2008-06-09 14:27                 ` Britt Snodgrass [this message]
2008-06-15 19:50                   ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-15 19:48                 ` Robert A Duff
2008-06-08 11:13     ` Simon Wright
2008-06-08 19:03       ` Sebastien Morand
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