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From: Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam (Larry Kilgallen)
Subject: Re: What happens to DEC Ada?
Date: 3 Aug 2001 10:35:10 -0500
Date: 2001-08-03T10:35:10-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b1FHvLfJLJqb@eisner.encompasserve.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: nwya7.18388$MB7.4309099@nnrp1.proxad.net

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In article <nwya7.18388$MB7.4309099@nnrp1.proxad.net>, "nicolas" <n.brunot@cadwin.com> writes:
> "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@eisner.decus.org.nospam> a �crit dans le
> message news: jGvPbYAYRtuu@eisner.encompasserve.org...
>> > Beside that, the timestamp method cannot always be trusted.
>> > We had problems with gnatmake which doesn't always recompile necessary
>> > files.
>> > The problem occurs when several files in different directories have same
>> > name, same timestamp, and are selected with ADA_INCLUDE_PATH
>> > timestamp and name of the file is checked, they are the sames, gnatmake
>> > doesn't figure out that this is a different file and doesn't recompile
> it.
>>
>> Well that sounds like just an implementation bug rather than a
>> conceptual flaw.
>>
> 
> We recompiled gnatmake with debug messages to see what went wrong actually.
> But I'm not sure you can call that an implementation bug.
> The flaw is to consider that 2 files with same name and same timestamp have
> the same content,
> or moreover that the content of a single  file has not changed, if the
> timestamp has not changed
> A lot of batch, or cvs import, commit or extractions, can generate a lot of
> files with same name and same timestamp.

But unless they are the same bits on the disk, they are a different
file.  On VMS you would use the 6 byte file ID and the 64 byte device
ID to determine uniqueness.  I am sure the same construct must exist
on other operating systems.

Granted, someone writing a tool may neglect to consider the situation
you describe, but that is still just an implementation bug.



  reply	other threads:[~2001-08-03 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-07-31 14:59 What happens to DEC Ada? Adrian Hoe
2001-07-31 15:47 ` Ted Dennison
2001-07-31 17:33   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-02 20:55   ` Corey Ashford
2001-08-02 21:02     ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-02 23:29       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-03 13:42         ` Ted Dennison
2001-08-13 13:19       ` Charlie McCutcheon
2001-08-13 13:15   ` Charlie McCutcheon
2001-07-31 16:13 ` Thierry Lelegard
2001-08-08  1:05   ` Charlie McCutcheon
2001-08-01  7:35 ` Chris Miller
2001-08-03  8:55   ` Gautier
2001-08-03 12:11   ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-03 11:31     ` nicolas
2001-08-03 15:16       ` Larry Kilgallen
2001-08-03 14:26         ` nicolas
2001-08-03 15:35           ` Larry Kilgallen [this message]
2001-08-03 14:42             ` nicolas
2001-08-03 19:35             ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-04 11:46               ` Simon Wright
2001-08-03 19:25           ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-03 19:29           ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-06  1:48       ` brentcarnellis
2001-08-06  8:12         ` nicolas
2001-08-06 14:05           ` Gautier
2001-08-06 14:23             ` nicolas
2001-08-07  4:07           ` brentcarnellis
2001-08-03 19:00     ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-03 19:27       ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-03 20:09         ` Wes Groleau
2001-08-04  2:12           ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-06 14:24           ` Marin David Condic
2001-08-08 19:24             ` Greg Bek
2001-08-10  1:13               ` Robert Dewar
2001-08-14 19:53               ` Wes Groleau
2001-08-08  1:06 ` Charlie McCutcheon
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