From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Using interfaces
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 19:11:49 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2018-06-02T19:11:49-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 12:43:34 PM UTC-6, Dan'l Miller wrote:
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> For example, in many modern programming languages, Ada included, there is a natural tension between the OO feature-set and the generic/parameterized-types feature-set as 2 nearly duplicated ways of accomplishing analogous goals.
No.
OOP and Generics are orthogonal in their goals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lv2lBq6x4A
The "tension" is due to a fundamental misunderstanding of what OOP *is*, which I think is due to the whole OOP-craze in academia, to the point where other ideas were forgotten/discarded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pTEmbeENF4&nohtml5=1
> I would say that modern C++ is like giving the template engine Turing completeness with a syntax that is only slightly more readable than a Turing-machine's infinite-length tape and then making the entire reason for the language to exist to constantly put bandages on the never-quite-healing wounds inflicted by the Turing-completeness-in-the-template-engine bull goring the rest of the C++ language with its horns, as if the rest of the language is a porcelain shop that stocks only red items. Oh wait. No “like” about it; that is what really happened.
The amount of time/energy spent "fixing C" (and C++) is truly astounding.
I wonder how well-off Ada would be if even 1/10th of that energy had been put into addressing Ada's weaknesses, like (eg) few libraries, not as many tools, etc.
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2018-06-02 15:20 Using interfaces gautier_niouzes
2018-06-02 15:55 ` Jere
2018-06-02 17:00 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-02 17:22 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2018-06-02 18:43 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-03 2:11 ` Shark8 [this message]
2018-06-03 3:06 ` Dan'l Miller
2018-06-03 7:06 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2018-06-04 9:32 ` gautier_niouzes
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