From: Markus E Leypold <development-2006-8ecbb5cc8aREMOVETHIS@ANDTHATm-e-leypold.de>
Subject: Re: An Ada Advice Inquiry
Date: Sat, 05 May 2007 14:13:21 +0200
Date: 2007-05-05T14:13:21+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ar6477qxi6.fsf@hod.lan.m-e-leypold.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1178365901.15069.22.camel@localhost.localdomain
Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de> writes:
> On Sat, 2007-05-05 at 11:59 +0200, Michael Bode wrote:
>
>> I have have bit of trouble illustrating this point. Let's say an Ada
>> tool set with which you can write cross platform CSS code for Linux
>> and Windows costs you 28_000ᅵ. Then compare that to a
>> Java/C/C++/Python tool set which meets the same requirements. I'd like
>> to refer to some price lists in the 500ᅵ to 1000ᅵ range which I would
>> call 'affordable'. My trouble is I can get all this for 0ᅵ.
>
> Ada's competition doesn't exactly charge 0ᅵ but a little to much
> more the moment you buy support. *But*, many Python or Java "buyers"
> don't buy support, because it isn't needed for a particular
> business case. (You prefer working a few hours around infrequent
> implementation bugs because cost(time) < cost(support)).
Exactly.
The Java version distributed without support is identical to the
version for which you can buy support, though.
> Enough people have expressed they could live with a next
> to no support Ada solution. This matches the typical
> Java, C#, or Python case.
> A way out for Ada small shops might be to get organized
> and join efforts to become selectable for Ada vendors
> on some suitable terms.
They could also sponsor FSF Gnat, including development to a stable
baseline.
> Not sure if any of the vendors will like the idea.
No.
> Would we have Java used everywhere if SUN charged the same
> sums from everyone that larger Ada customers can pay?
Regards -- Markus
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2007-05-04 3:01 An Ada Advice Inquiry adaworks
2007-05-04 2:23 ` ezkcdude
2007-05-04 4:15 ` tmoran
2007-05-04 5:47 ` Randy Brukardt
2007-05-04 8:47 ` roderick.chapman
2007-05-04 12:17 ` adaworks
2007-05-05 2:35 ` Fionn Mac Cumhaill
2007-05-06 10:50 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-04 14:14 ` Sloan.Kohler
2007-05-04 12:16 ` adaworks
2007-05-04 4:57 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2007-05-04 8:04 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-04 8:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-04 9:08 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-04 10:05 ` AW: " Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)
2007-05-04 11:41 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-04 12:21 ` adaworks
2007-05-04 11:53 ` AW: " Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)
2007-05-04 12:18 ` adaworks
2007-05-04 9:22 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 5:55 ` adaworks
2007-05-06 16:21 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-04 9:52 ` xavier
2007-05-04 12:19 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-04 12:19 ` adaworks
2007-05-04 13:59 ` Stephen Leake
2007-05-04 16:31 ` adaworks
2007-05-04 18:30 ` Pascal Obry
2007-05-04 19:10 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-04 19:22 ` Ed Falis
2007-05-04 20:22 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-04 20:51 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-04 21:57 ` Ed Falis
2007-05-04 22:24 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 9:59 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-05 11:37 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 11:51 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-05 12:13 ` Markus E Leypold [this message]
2007-05-05 12:30 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-07 9:40 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-07 18:17 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-07 19:39 ` Georg Bauhaus
2007-05-04 20:03 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-05-04 20:36 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-04 20:55 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 12:41 ` Jeffrey Creem
2007-05-05 13:24 ` Ed Falis
2007-05-05 13:31 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-05 13:40 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-05 13:59 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-05 14:39 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-05 14:04 ` Ed Falis
2007-05-05 14:17 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 14:13 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-05 14:16 ` Ed Falis
2007-05-05 14:07 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-04 21:16 ` adaworks
2007-05-05 23:47 ` Stephen Leake
2007-05-06 10:19 ` Michael Bode
2007-05-06 13:31 ` GNAT Professional machine code listings (was: An Ada Advice Inquiry) Larry Kilgallen
2007-05-06 14:50 ` GNAT Professional machine code listings Simon Wright
2007-05-06 15:26 ` GNAT Professional machine code listings (was: An Ada Advice Inquiry) adaworks
2007-05-04 19:59 ` An Ada Advice Inquiry Jeffrey Creem
2007-05-04 21:37 ` adaworks
2007-05-05 12:27 ` John McCormick
2007-05-05 12:45 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-05 23:44 ` Stephen Leake
2007-05-06 5:00 ` adaworks
2007-05-06 10:47 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-06 12:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-06 13:49 ` Pascal Obry
2007-05-06 15:47 ` adaworks
2007-05-06 15:20 ` Pascal Obry
2007-05-06 18:12 ` adaworks
2007-05-06 19:38 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-07 7:07 ` Martin Krischik
2007-05-07 8:50 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-07 9:40 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-07 13:00 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-07 13:58 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-07 21:07 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-08 7:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2007-05-07 16:12 ` Martin Krischik
2007-05-07 18:38 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-07 21:26 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-08 2:42 ` Justin Gombos
2007-05-08 8:15 ` Maciej Sobczak
2007-05-09 0:19 ` Justin Gombos
2007-05-09 2:05 ` Robert A Duff
2007-05-08 10:50 ` Markus E Leypold
2007-05-08 15:53 ` Robert A Duff
2007-05-08 18:03 ` Ludovic Brenta
2007-05-09 2:23 ` Robert A Duff
2007-05-08 6:36 ` Martin Krischik
2007-05-08 8:32 ` Maciej Sobczak
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