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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Ada standard and maximum line lengths
Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 12:25:30 +0200
Date: 2013-01-29T12:25:30+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ampmcqFqh9aU1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ke7peh$tof$1@dont-email.me>

On 13-01-29 08:15 , J-P. Rosen wrote:
> Le 28/01/2013 22:29, Niklas Holsti a �crit :
>> In the same post in which Jeffrey quoted ARM 2.2(14), it seemed he was
>> reading it to mean that there is a coupling. I was asking how he deduced
>> that coupling. I'm asking the same question as you (J-P.), but from the
>> other side of the burden of proof.
>>
>> So, can you show the ARM verse that says that a compiler is not allowed
>> to limit identifiers to 200 characters, if it supports lines of 10,000
>> characters?
> I don't have much to add to Randy's response. Yes, you can read the RM
> this way,

Good that we agree on that.

> and no it's not the way it has been interpreted either by the
> ACATS or implementers.

Seems to be legacy from Ada 83, which should have been changed (in my
reading of the ARM, which I still see as more correct) for Ada 95.

> Since I see no benefit in having them different, I think a fix in the RM
> is the best thing to do.

In many programming languages and implementations from the last century,
maximum identifier length was much less than maximum line length. BASIC
originally had 1-letter identifiers. IIRC Fortran had a 6-character limit.

I don't mind if the ARM is changed (or interpreted) to require th a
compiler to support identifiers as long as the longest possible source
line. I don't think it is important one way or the other, as long as my
compiler supports reasonable lengths. 200 characters is ok as a max line
length. 200 for an identifier is overkill, IMO.

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-29 10:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-28  5:02 Ada standard and maximum line lengths Lucretia
2013-01-28  6:01 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-28  6:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-28  8:05   ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-28 16:42     ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-28 20:22       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-28 20:46         ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-28 21:29           ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29  1:42             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-29  6:15             ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-29 10:25               ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2013-01-29 11:31                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 12:11                   ` Simon Wright
2013-01-29 12:31                   ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 12:37                     ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 15:29                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 16:58                       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 17:51                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 18:18                           ` Shark8
2013-01-29 19:54                           ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 23:12                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-30  9:18                               ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-30  9:51                                 ` Simon Wright
2013-01-30 15:28                                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-30 23:24                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-31  2:16                                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-31  9:10                                       ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-01-31  9:30                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-31  9:51                                           ` Simon Wright
2013-01-31 10:56                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-31 18:02                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-31 23:54                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-01  9:15                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-02-01 23:13                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-02  1:24                                             ` Lucretia
2013-02-02 14:12                                               ` Robert A Duff
2013-02-05  2:09                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-31  9:03                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-30  9:37                               ` Simon Wright
2013-01-30 12:02                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 23:47                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-30  7:24                               ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-30 10:09                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-29 20:36                 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 21:01                   ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-29 21:14                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28  8:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28 10:02   ` Maciej Sobczak
2013-01-28 11:57     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-28 13:28       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-28 15:14       ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-28 16:13       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28 15:13     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28 13:49 ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-29  2:09   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-29 18:46 ` Lucretia
2013-01-29 20:53   ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-29 21:22   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-30  3:22     ` Lucretia
2013-01-30  9:49       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-30 23:28         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-01  1:48       ` Shark8
2013-01-29 21:29   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-29 21:53   ` Adam Beneschan
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