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From: Niklas Holsti <niklas.holsti@tidorum.invalid>
Subject: Re: Ada standard and maximum line lengths
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 15:28:44 +0200
Date: 2013-01-28T15:28:44+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <amncodFaek5U1@mid.individual.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <510667a9$0$9504$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net>

On 13-01-28 13:57 , Georg Bauhaus wrote:
> On 28.01.13 11:02, Maciej Sobczak wrote:
>> I would not be surprised if the permission to limit is a leftover
>> from the ice age of line printers, without any real association
>> with today's systems.
> 
> Line lengths surely affect source code quality, and hence the way
> programmers can address tasks of ECRs etc. But how?  If automatic
> parsers can easily handle short lines or long lines, there is then
> more reason to emphasize why we do have lines in the first place!
> 
> I wonder what will be the effect on working in the programming
> profession of a general limit on line lengths that is, say, <= 100
> characters:

None for me. I am perfectly happy to write programs with at most 80
characters per line. If pressed, perhaps I can go up to 100.

But 200-character lines? How does one sensibly do a side-by-side diff,
for example?

> Will editing programs improve? If long lines are written in order to
> make the control structure more easily apparent (since indentation 
> then serves only the purpose of indicating control structure, no
> broken statements),

But breaking long statements into separate lines *helps* readability,
for example by placing each parameter for a call on its own line. And it
helps diffs, too (diffs are a very important part of version and change
tracking, for me at least).

For prose, narrow columns are known to be easier to read than page-wide
columns. The normal width of a book page is about the upper limit for me
-- any wider and my eyes lose track when doing "carriage return", so to
speak :-)

All hail the 80-column line!

-- 
Niklas Holsti
Tidorum Ltd
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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-28 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-28  5:02 Ada standard and maximum line lengths Lucretia
2013-01-28  6:01 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-28  6:28 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-28  8:05   ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-28 16:42     ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-28 20:22       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-28 20:46         ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-28 21:29           ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29  1:42             ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-29  6:15             ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-29 10:25               ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 11:31                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 12:11                   ` Simon Wright
2013-01-29 12:31                   ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 12:37                     ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 15:29                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 16:58                       ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 17:51                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 18:18                           ` Shark8
2013-01-29 19:54                           ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 23:12                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-30  9:18                               ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-30  9:51                                 ` Simon Wright
2013-01-30 15:28                                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-30 23:24                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-31  2:16                                     ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-31  9:10                                       ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-01-31  9:30                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-31  9:51                                           ` Simon Wright
2013-01-31 10:56                                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-31 18:02                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-31 23:54                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-01  9:15                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2013-02-01 23:13                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-02  1:24                                             ` Lucretia
2013-02-02 14:12                                               ` Robert A Duff
2013-02-05  2:09                                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-31  9:03                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-30  9:37                               ` Simon Wright
2013-01-30 12:02                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-29 23:47                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-01-30  7:24                               ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-30 10:09                                 ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-29 20:36                 ` Niklas Holsti
2013-01-29 21:01                   ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-29 21:14                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28  8:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28 10:02   ` Maciej Sobczak
2013-01-28 11:57     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-01-28 13:28       ` Niklas Holsti [this message]
2013-01-28 15:14       ` J-P. Rosen
2013-01-28 16:13       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28 15:13     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-28 13:49 ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-29  2:09   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-01-29 18:46 ` Lucretia
2013-01-29 20:53   ` Robert A Duff
2013-01-29 21:22   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-30  3:22     ` Lucretia
2013-01-30  9:49       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-30 23:28         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-02-01  1:48       ` Shark8
2013-01-29 21:29   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-01-29 21:53   ` Adam Beneschan
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