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From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
Subject: Re: Advantage of XML based GUI? (was Re: Ada-inspired OS/Language)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:54:09 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2002-09-12T18:54:09+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alqnsh$8n4$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3D80C422.3080402@cogeco.ca

Warren W. Gay VE3WWG <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca> wrote:
: you still boil
: down to conventions and data format.

Sure, and in a sense, an Ada program is just a string
that is in accordance with some grammar, that is
acceepted by some machinery. :-) That is, all this gossip
about the safe programming language Ada boils down
to accepted/not accepted, right?

Besides, is there a convention based data format similar
to XML based formats that provides for builtin referential
integrity (like via IDREF?)? One that has well defined
inclusion and reuse mechanisms? One that allows renaming
of values?

I'm not convinced that calling a BNF like thing (and more)
mere convention is really appropriate.

: Beyond that, you are just talking about tools that
: work with XML.

Well, yes and no (certainly no, actually).  There is a notion
of a conforming XML system, and you can't just specify document
types or even be done with wellformedness and then use, say
pattern based text extraction and say, "we are doing XML based
data processing". At least you'll be missing something then :-)

As a side note, why are these standard lectures called
"algorithms _and_ data structures"? There is even data
driven programming, so a decent data format, and means
of securely specifying it, is crucial, I think.

I'll concede that XML text doesn't look pretty or elegant, but
text with XML markup in it is really useful, for example
when debugging data streams, due to being explicit.
Isn't that something that Ada programmers usually prefer?

-- Georg



  reply	other threads:[~2002-09-12 18:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-20 14:10 Ada-inspired OS/Language Ryan
2002-08-20 14:34 ` Jim Rogers
2002-08-20 14:59 ` Darren New
2002-08-20 17:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 22:24   ` Nick Roberts
2002-08-30 13:33     ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-31  3:38       ` Nick Roberts
2002-08-31 13:54         ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-04 16:47         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-09-04 17:24         ` Darren New
2002-09-05  3:16           ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-05  8:41             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12  2:17             ` Rod Haper
2002-09-06 17:31     ` Richard Riehle
2002-09-07  0:23       ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-07 13:43         ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-07 15:18           ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-08 22:14           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-09 10:27             ` Advantage of XML based GUI? (was Re: Ada-inspired OS/Language) Preben Randhol
2002-09-09 14:27               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-09 14:02                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-09 14:43                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-09 21:58                   ` Ryan Tarpine
2002-09-11 16:40                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-12 10:01                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12 16:43                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-12 18:54                         ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2002-09-12 21:22                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-13 12:15                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-10  5:21                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-10  5:21               ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-10 12:31                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-10 13:16                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-15 19:49                     ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-10 22:32                   ` achrist
2002-09-11  4:45                     ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-11  5:59                       ` achrist
2002-09-12 14:55                         ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-11  2:28               ` Ted Dennison
2002-09-11 13:54                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-11 14:06                   ` Programmer Dude
2002-09-11 19:48                 ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12  8:02                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-12 14:27                     ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-18 17:49                       ` Andrew Berg
2002-09-18 23:13                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-12 16:12                     ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 16:45                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-12 17:03                         ` David C. Hoos
2002-09-13  7:57                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-14 12:59                               ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16  5:20                                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-16  8:16                                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-16 11:47                                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16 12:08                                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-17 12:04                                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-12 18:57                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-13  8:01                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 12:23                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-13 15:32                               ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13  8:24                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-14 15:42                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-14 16:19                                 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-15  3:31                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-15  5:50                           ` Mark Biggar
2002-09-15  8:38                             ` achrist
2002-09-15 21:54                               ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-16 15:26                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-17  2:36                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-17  4:07                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                 ` <jHHM$fQsCilo@eisneOrganization: LJK Software <bNwUY4VpTlxs@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2002-09-17 22:05                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 17:23                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-13  0:45                         ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-13  8:10                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 17:44                             ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13  3:02                           ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-13 10:50                           ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-09-13 17:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 20:36                       ` chris.danx
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13 12:14                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-13 15:29                         ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-13 17:02                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-14 12:49                             ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16  8:14                               ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-16 11:56                                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-13 17:27                           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-09-16  7:55                             ` Mats Karlssohn
2002-09-13 15:34                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-09 10:00           ` Ada-inspired OS/Language Peter Hermann
2002-08-30 23:56   ` Samuel Tardieu
     [not found] <000201c25b4d$2a9eba10$789a0844@robertqgx6k4x9>
2002-09-14  6:17 ` Advantage of XML based GUI? (was Re: Ada-inspired OS/Language) Robert C. Leif
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