From: Colin Paul Gloster <Colin_Paul_Gloster@ACM.org>
Subject: Re: Software Quality in Science
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:08:11 +0000
Date: 2010-02-15T11:08:11+00:00 [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <04185bf3-f83a-4fbe-b380-c6d8aa4105e6@w27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Jerry sent:
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|"Here is the link in the Guardian article to the original work: |
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|http://www.leshatton.org/Documents/Texp_ICSE297.pdf |
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|It appears that this work was done in the 1990s. The paper is actually|
|fairly entertaining to read, if for nothing else how scary it is. Here|
|is a choice comment, about a commercial program for use in the nuclear|
|engineering industry: |
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|"This package climbed to an awe-inspiring 140 weighted static faults |
|per 1000 lines of code, and in spite of the aspirations of its |
|designers, amounted to no more than a very expensive random number |
|generator."" |
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I am a nuclear scientist, and I confirm that software used for
supposedly simulating nuclear reactions is dangerous. For example,
HTTP://HyperNews.SLAC.Stanford.edu/HyperNews/geant4/get/phys-list/545.html
Nuclear electricity should be illegal.
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|"And this comment which addresses the use of Ada: |
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|"In C, note that function prototypes were well used only around 60% of|
|the time and as a result, interface faults accounted for about 24% of |
|the total. In other words, if function prototypes were mandated in all|
|C functions, 24% of all serious faults would disappear. The |
|computational scientist should not use this as an argument in favour |
|of C++ or Ada in which they are mandated. A large number of new |
|failure modes result from this action, which lack of space prohibits |
|further discussion here. The net result of changing languages appears |
|to be that the overall defect density appears to be about the same, |
|(Hatton 1997). In other words, when a language corrects one |
|deficiency, it appears to add one of its own."" |
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Why did that entertain you?
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-09 21:20 Software Quality in Science Jerry
2010-02-09 21:51 ` Jerry
2010-02-09 22:00 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-10 4:13 ` Thomas Wicklund
2010-02-10 5:24 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-09 23:43 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10 1:01 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-02-10 14:34 ` Stephen Leake
2010-02-10 15:09 ` Martin
2010-02-10 16:37 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-10 17:05 ` Martin
2010-02-10 13:13 ` Florian Weimer
2010-02-10 13:30 ` (see below)
2010-02-10 13:38 ` Martin
2010-02-15 11:20 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-02-15 14:52 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-02-15 18:48 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-02-10 14:29 ` Stephen Leake
2010-02-10 14:38 ` Hyman Rosen
2010-02-10 16:24 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-15 11:32 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-02-15 12:19 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-02-10 13:55 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-02-10 14:21 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-10 22:52 ` Bob Spooner
2010-02-11 8:29 ` Rick
2010-02-11 22:39 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-11 23:10 ` Brian Drummond
2010-02-11 23:21 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-11 23:24 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-12 0:06 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-12 0:32 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-12 7:37 ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-12 10:58 ` Stephen Leake
2010-02-12 15:02 ` Robert A Duff
2010-02-15 10:49 ` Alex R. Mosteo
2010-02-12 7:37 ` Pascal Obry
2010-02-15 12:18 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2010-02-15 11:08 ` Colin Paul Gloster [this message]
2010-02-15 14:43 ` Hibou57 (Yannick Duchêne)
2010-02-15 19:01 ` Colin Paul Gloster
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