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From: Stefan.Lucks@uni-weimar.de
Subject: Re: library/binding for sftp?
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 19:26:16 +0200
Date: 2013-08-19T19:26:16+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1308191900320.24091@debian> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ku3ig5$9ml$1@loke.gir.dk>

On Fri, 9 Aug 2013, Randy Brukardt wrote:

>>>>> Firstly, there is no protection against targeted attack. Secondly,
>>>>> regarding spies, they aren't any good in programming. Obscuring is
>>>>> the best method against unfocused surveillance which works only
>>>>> with known protocols.
>>>>
>>>> Four false statements in a row.
>>>
>>> There are only three here,
>>
>> Three sentences, but I see two statements in the third sentence.
>
> There is only one in the third sentence that I see. "best method". The rest
> is a definition.

Randy, I see two statements in the third sentence, and no definition:

1. obscuring is the best method against unfocused surveillance
2. unfocused surveillance works only with known protocols.

I question the first statement.

The second one is dangerously wrong, and there are plenty of 
counterexamples.

One common error frequently found in homegrown protocols is encrypting 
some stuff while leaving other sensitive information in the clear. E.g., 
older versions of WinZip did support the encryption of files, while 
including plain filenames in the archives. (I am not sure about recent 
versions of WinZip.) Any protocol based on sending "encrypted" archives 
would trivially leave the filenames open even for unfocused surveillance 
operations -- if that was fishing for filenames.


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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-19 17:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-05 12:41 library/binding for sftp? Stephen Leake
2013-08-05 15:18 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-06  6:24   ` Stephen Leake
2013-08-06  6:54     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-07 10:06       ` Stephen Leake
2013-08-07 13:04         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-07 17:15           ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-07 19:57             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-07 20:09               ` Alan Jump
2013-08-07 20:26                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-07 20:32                   ` Alan Jump
2013-08-08  9:14                     ` Björn Persson
2013-08-08  9:49                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-08-08 11:37                         ` Björn Persson
2013-08-08 19:18                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-08 20:03                             ` Alan Jump
2013-08-09  9:19                               ` Björn Persson
2013-08-09 20:21                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-09  8:49                             ` Björn Persson
2013-08-09 20:12                               ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-19 17:26                                 ` Stefan.Lucks [this message]
2013-08-19 18:15                                   ` AdaMagica
2013-08-19 22:45                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-19 23:15                                   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-20  6:43                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-13  9:58                                       ` Oliver Kleinke
2013-09-13 21:12                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-08-20  8:14                                     ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-08-20 20:59                                       ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-21  7:27                                         ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-08-21 16:46                                           ` Alan Jump
2013-08-22  5:53                                             ` Per Sandberg
2013-08-26 21:21                                           ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-24  8:06                                       ` David Thompson
2013-08-24 11:26                                         ` Stefan.Lucks
2013-08-07 21:46               ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-07 17:44           ` Björn Persson
2013-08-05 18:40 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-06  6:26   ` Stephen Leake
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