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From: "Peter C. Chapin" <PChapin@vtc.vsc.edu>
Subject: Re: 4 beginner's questions on the PL Ada
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 09:24:26 -0400
Date: 2013-08-11T09:24:26-04:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1308110904590.3431@whirlwind> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877gfss8k4.fsf@VLAN-3434.student.uu.se>

On Sun, 11 Aug 2013, Emanuel Berg wrote:

> Especially when you are new to a language, you can't "learn by doing 
> it", because your toolbox is all but empty. You need to study what other 
> people wrote. Examples are better, much better, at this stage, than 
> plowing a reference manual. When you have achieved some level of 
> fluency, the reference is great to have on you desk, though.

I admit that I haven't been following this thread closely so I may be out 
of touch with the points being discussed. However, as an educator I wanted 
to point out that it isn't really about code examples vs written 
explanations. Both tools are useful when it comes to deepening one's 
understanding. Written explanations tend to be more general but a good, 
concrete code example can help the mind form a useful model for a concept 
and lead a person to a more abstract level of understanding.

Also when it comes to written explanations there are certainly more 
resources than the reference manual for a language. In fact, books about 
software design and engineering without regard to any particular 
programming language can often make one a better programmer in any 
language. Isn't that the point of such books?

Finally the way a person learns a new language depends greatly on that 
person's background. It's a very different process for a person who 
already programs extensively and knows several languages than it is for a 
person who has never programmed before.

Peter


  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-11 13:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-09 16:50 4 beginner's questions on the PL Ada Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 17:09 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-09 17:16   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 17:46     ` Alan Jump
2013-08-09 18:10       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 19:01   ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-09 21:38     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 22:00       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-09 22:16         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  0:39           ` Anh Vo
2013-08-10  1:24             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  6:16               ` Simon Wright
2013-08-10 12:13                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 17:12               ` Mike H
2013-08-10 17:53                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 19:50                   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-10 22:23                     ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11  7:12                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-08-11 12:44                         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11 21:12                           ` Bill Findlay
2013-08-11 21:22                             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-12 17:39               ` Anh Vo
2013-08-12 18:15                 ` Anh Vo
2013-08-12 19:57                 ` Simon Wright
2013-08-12 20:13                   ` Anh Vo
2013-08-10  0:52           ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-12 19:47         ` Randy Brukardt
2013-08-09 22:08       ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 22:23         ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 22:36           ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 22:42             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 23:48               ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 23:50                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-09 23:56                 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  0:44                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-10  0:51                   ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 22:47             ` Alan Jump
2013-08-09 23:33               ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-09 23:43                 ` Alan Jump
2013-08-10  0:19                   ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-10  0:52                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-10  0:48                 ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 23:40               ` Robert A Duff
2013-08-09 23:25       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-09 18:29 ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-09 18:51   ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-09 19:05     ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-09 18:35 ` Simon Wright
2013-08-09 23:21 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-09 23:48   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10  2:45     ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-08-10  3:33       ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 14:57         ` Shark8
2013-08-10 17:43           ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 17:55             ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 23:15             ` Simon Clubley
2013-08-11 12:16               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-12 18:07               ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-11  0:34             ` Shark8
2013-08-11 12:42               ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11 13:24                 ` Peter C. Chapin [this message]
2013-08-11 13:37                   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-11 15:15                   ` Mike H
2013-08-12 17:56           ` Adam Beneschan
2013-08-10  6:03       ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-12 17:17         ` Eryndlia Mavourneen
2013-08-12 17:27           ` Jeffrey Carter
2013-08-10 12:31 ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 12:37   ` Emanuel Berg
2013-08-10 12:52     ` Emanuel Berg
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