From: Dmitry A.Kazakov <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: stupid question: how can I finish a program?
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 04:40:12 +0200
Date: 2002-08-31T04:40:12+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aknvne$1kn818$1@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: akl6um$3ua$1@nh.pace.co.uk
Marin D. Condic wrote:
> Yes, I understand that there are potential issues as to what exactly
> happens from one OS to another and I understand that there are dangers in
> its use because its behavior can't necessarily deal with everything
> cleanly or do what you would want it to do under the circumstances. But
> note that a) Windows does provide an OS call to abort the process
They (MS) wrote the following about it:
"The TerminateProcess function is used to unconditionally cause a process
to exit. Use it only in extreme circumstances. The state of global data
maintained by dynamic-link libraries (DLLs) may be compromised if
TerminateProcess is used rather than ExitProcess."
-- MSDN library
> and b) I said the following:
>> > Would the formal definition need to be any more complicated than:
>> > "Implementation Defined - but we suggest that you make it do what any
>> > sane person using the target OS would reasonably expect..."? It
>> > doesn't seem
> (In other words, you could have it make monkeys fly out of your nose, but
> a sane person would expect it to call the OS provided "abort" procedure
> and do whatever that does.)
I have only one objection - this cannot be called "portable". There is also
a problem, where do you want to stop? Portable sockets? Pipes? Mailboxes?
FTP? 2D-graphics? 3D? SQL? ...
Not that I am against all that (:-)), but it will be very hard to do.
> Just because there is no absolutely safe or absolutely portable or
> absolutely consistent way of doing something in Ada, doesn't mean it
> shouldn't be done. A complaint that a lot of C programmers have about Ada
> is that it keeps stoping them from doing what they want to do. Sometimes
> that is a good thing, but sometimes its just plain stubbornness on the
> part of Ada insisting that because an answer isn't "perfect" that it won't
> provide one that is "good enough". Providing a portable interface to what
> ANSI C calls "abort();" (and similar...) doesn't sound like something that
> should be avoided just because it might be misused or that the results
> might not be consistent across all platforms.
Well, if so little is required then Annex B is a perfect place for this:
Interfaces.POSIX
Interfaces.VMS
Interfaces.Win32
...
--
Regards,
Dmitry Kazakov
www.dmitry-kazakov.de
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2002-08-13 14:37 ` stupid question: how can I finish a program? chris.danx
2002-08-13 23:53 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14 2:07 ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14 5:53 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14 13:30 ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14 13:56 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 15:58 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 19:18 ` Simon Wright
2002-08-15 14:02 ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-15 1:47 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-15 5:14 ` Michael Bode
2002-08-17 14:28 ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-08-15 5:17 ` tmoran
2002-08-15 18:41 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 13:53 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-15 17:39 ` tmoran
2002-08-16 13:46 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 14:26 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-22 19:16 ` tmoran
2002-08-22 20:54 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-25 2:22 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-26 15:59 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-27 21:59 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 20:40 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-28 13:59 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 16:55 ` Darren New
2002-08-28 18:36 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-28 22:22 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 22:30 ` Darren New
2002-08-28 23:16 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 16:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:55 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 19:17 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-30 8:09 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-08-31 20:39 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 16:35 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2002-08-29 22:48 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 15:18 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30 4:29 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:53 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 19:03 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-29 19:25 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 20:42 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 20:22 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30 20:59 ` Simon Wright
2002-08-28 14:33 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-28 22:15 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 15:30 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 22:16 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 13:17 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-29 19:32 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-31 2:40 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov [this message]
2002-08-31 0:10 ` Toshitaka Kumano
2002-09-02 21:02 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:26 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-13 14:38 ` David C. Hoos
2002-08-13 20:08 ` Adam Beneschan
2002-08-14 6:41 ` Emil Moholth
2002-08-14 14:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-14 7:37 ` Martin Dowie
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