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From: "Marin D. Condic" <not.valid@acm.org>
Subject: Re: Ada-inspired OS/Language
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 09:33:11 -0400
Date: 2002-08-30T13:33:26+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <akns76$oki$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3d6e9cb6.75108980@news.cis.dfn.de

It looks interesting. Does this mean that development on AdaOS is ramping
up? Here's one thing I think is an excellent hook: The fact that you are
aiming to make it a distributed system. Figure that there are any number of
geeks out there with two or more old PCs sitting around the house who might
find it really fun to put an OS on them that turned them into a cluster.
That's something kind of unique. Perhaps the more it aims at distribution
and load balancing the more of a niche it will find in industry. If it makes
scaling up a system easy by just plugging in more inexpensive computers, it
could really catch on. Especially to the extent that it can exploit Ada
tasking as a distribution mechanism - "Sure, you can program it in C/C++ but
it'll be easier to exploit parallelism and get better performance if you
just do it in Ada..."

BTW: What theme is driving the naming scheme?

MDC
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"Nick Roberts" <nickroberts@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:3d6e9cb6.75108980@news.cis.dfn.de...
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002 13:57:24 -0400, "Warren W. Gay VE3WWG"
> <ve3wwg@cogeco.ca> strongly typed:
>
> >Ryan wrote:
> >> An article on Slashdot reads
> >> (http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/08/18/2053259)
> >...
> >> "BRiX, unlike other modern operating systems, does not use hardware to
> >> isolate and protect applications from each other. Instead, it uses a
> >> single address space and relies on a safe-language to generate code
that
> >> will not access memory for which it does not own.
> >
> >Here we go again.. another DOS-like, memory wide open to corruption
> >concept. PC's eventually, with the help of 286 and later got to the
> >point where they could protect processes. Now we've regressed with
> >the palms etc., back to this no-protection model. No matter how good
> >the language is, there will always be occaisions where one process
> >steps on another unless it is prevented from doing so in hardware.
> >
> >This is OK for research. Not good for running systems that must
> >run as firewalls, or central hosts to university students!
>
> This is one reason why BRiX (or Oberon) will not have a tremendous effect
> on the design of AdaOS.
>
> The other main reason is that this type of design appears to preclude the
> possibility of the direct execution of programs imported in machine code
> form. I find this an unacceptable restriction, and I think too many users
> would as well.
>
> By the way, there is a simple overview of AdaOS now available at
>
> http://www.adaos.net
>
> with a pretty diagram if anybody is interested.
>
> --
> Nick Roberts





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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-08-20 14:10 Ada-inspired OS/Language Ryan
2002-08-20 14:34 ` Jim Rogers
2002-08-20 14:59 ` Darren New
2002-08-20 17:57 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 22:24   ` Nick Roberts
2002-08-30 13:33     ` Marin D. Condic [this message]
2002-08-31  3:38       ` Nick Roberts
2002-08-31 13:54         ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-04 16:47         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-09-04 17:24         ` Darren New
2002-09-05  3:16           ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-05  8:41             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12  2:17             ` Rod Haper
2002-09-06 17:31     ` Richard Riehle
2002-09-07  0:23       ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-07 13:43         ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-07 15:18           ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-08 22:14           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-09 10:27             ` Advantage of XML based GUI? (was Re: Ada-inspired OS/Language) Preben Randhol
2002-09-09 14:27               ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-09 14:02                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-09 14:43                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-09 21:58                   ` Ryan Tarpine
2002-09-11 16:40                   ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-12 10:01                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12 16:43                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-12 18:54                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-12 21:22                           ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-13 12:15                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-10  5:21                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-10  5:21               ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-10 12:31                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-10 13:16                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-15 19:49                     ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-10 22:32                   ` achrist
2002-09-11  4:45                     ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-11  5:59                       ` achrist
2002-09-12 14:55                         ` Christopher Browne
2002-09-11  2:28               ` Ted Dennison
2002-09-11 13:54                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-11 14:06                   ` Programmer Dude
2002-09-11 19:48                 ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12  8:02                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-12 14:27                     ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-18 17:49                       ` Andrew Berg
2002-09-18 23:13                         ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-12 16:12                     ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 16:45                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-12 17:03                         ` David C. Hoos
2002-09-13  7:57                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-14 12:59                               ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16  5:20                                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-16  8:16                                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-16 11:47                                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16 12:08                                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-17 12:04                                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-12 18:57                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-13  8:01                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 12:23                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-09-13 15:32                               ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13  8:24                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-14 15:42                               ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-14 16:19                                 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-09-15  3:31                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-15  5:50                           ` Mark Biggar
2002-09-15  8:38                             ` achrist
2002-09-15 21:54                               ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-16 15:26                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-17  2:36                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-17  4:07                                 ` Larry Kilgallen
     [not found]                                 ` <jHHM$fQsCilo@eisneOrganization: LJK Software <bNwUY4VpTlxs@eisner.encompasserve.org>
2002-09-17 22:05                                   ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 17:23                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-13  0:45                         ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-13  8:10                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-13 17:44                             ` Robert C. Leif
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13  3:02                           ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-13 10:50                           ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-09-13 17:00                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-13 19:55                             ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-12 20:36                       ` chris.danx
2002-09-13  1:53                         ` Nick Roberts
2002-09-13 12:14                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-13 15:29                         ` Robert A Duff
2002-09-13 17:02                           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-09-14 12:49                             ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-16  8:14                               ` Preben Randhol
2002-09-16 11:56                                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-09-13 17:27                           ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-09-16  7:55                             ` Mats Karlssohn
2002-09-13 15:34                       ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-09-09 10:00           ` Ada-inspired OS/Language Peter Hermann
2002-08-30 23:56   ` Samuel Tardieu
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