From: Dennis Lee Bieber <wlfraed@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: stupid question: how can I finish a program?
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 09:35:12 -0700
Date: 2002-08-29T16:35:34+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <akligm$hj6$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: wccu1letygv.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com
Robert A Duff fed this fish to the penguins on Wednesday 28 August 2002
03:22 pm:
> Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com> writes:
>
>> Other OSes (like Amiga's OS) specifically don't clean up anything at
>> all, as this lets you do things like allocate memory, load a program
>> into it, and start it up and then exit yourself. You have to clean it
>> up for yourself.
>
> I don't know Amiga, but it seems to me that if a crashed program
> causes memory leaks, the OS is broken.
>
The described behavior is closer to a VMS spawn (or fork() call).
Essentially the initial program has done the memory allocation/image
load, after which the new process is totally independent (hence
responsible for it's own process termination cleanup).
One caveat, the Amiga OS did not natively handle virtual/protected
memory -- it used a single global address space (it ran on 68000
processors). There were modules to make use of virtual addressing on
later processors, but still no protected memory. OTOH, we are talking a
system with a multi-priority round-robin preemptive task scheduler that
ran off 880K floppies with a graphical (the "text" interface required
the graphical libraries just to render text) interface in 256K RAM --
this, when M$ Windows was around the 3.0 (or earlier) where the window
manager handled task swapping on top of a non-multitasked base.
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2002-08-13 14:37 ` stupid question: how can I finish a program? chris.danx
2002-08-13 23:53 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14 2:07 ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14 5:53 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-14 13:30 ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-14 13:56 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 15:58 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 19:18 ` Simon Wright
2002-08-15 14:02 ` Wes Groleau
2002-08-15 1:47 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-15 5:14 ` Michael Bode
2002-08-17 14:28 ` Alfred Hilscher
2002-08-15 5:17 ` tmoran
2002-08-15 18:41 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-14 13:53 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-15 17:39 ` tmoran
2002-08-16 13:46 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-17 14:26 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-22 19:16 ` tmoran
2002-08-22 20:54 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-25 2:22 ` Robert Dewar
2002-08-26 15:59 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-27 21:59 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 20:40 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-28 13:59 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 16:55 ` Darren New
2002-08-28 18:36 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-28 22:22 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-28 22:30 ` Darren New
2002-08-28 23:16 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 16:49 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:55 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 19:17 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-30 8:09 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-08-31 20:39 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 16:35 ` Dennis Lee Bieber [this message]
2002-08-29 22:48 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 15:18 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30 4:29 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:53 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 19:03 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-08-29 19:25 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 20:42 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 20:22 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-30 20:59 ` Simon Wright
2002-08-28 14:33 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-28 22:15 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-08-29 15:30 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-29 22:16 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 13:17 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-29 19:32 ` Robert A Duff
2002-08-31 2:40 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-31 0:10 ` Toshitaka Kumano
2002-09-02 21:02 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-08-29 16:59 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-08-29 18:26 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-13 14:38 ` David C. Hoos
2002-08-13 20:08 ` Adam Beneschan
2002-08-14 6:41 ` Emil Moholth
2002-08-14 14:00 ` Marin D. Condic
2002-08-14 7:37 ` Martin Dowie
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