Re: Elaboration Schmelaboration...

Re: Elaboration Schmelaboration...

[Grein, Christoph]

> Eh... What is elaboration? Can it be explained in C++ terms?

Not knowing C++, I'll use Ada terminology :-b

A program as a whole is executed. A program consists of declarations, statements 
and expressions. Execution of each of these parts has a special name:

Declarations are elaborated.
Statements are executed.
Expressions are evaluate.

Thus a declarative part is elaborated, the following is done (in the sequence 
defined in the RM):

Storage is allocated for the local variables, explicit or implicit initial 
values are assigned to them, local tasks are started, etc...

Since initial values are expressions, all kinds of other program units may be 
called. This is the infamous elaboration sequence problem when circularities are 
detected.

Re: Elaboration Schmelaboration...

[Marin David Condic]

O.K., but C++ also has declarations, so there *is* an analogy. Granted, the
whole scheme of things is dramatically different, (Header files don't
actually "execute" and inclusion of such things is lexical inclusion, etc.)
but you can see the same sort of things happening. When declaring an object
of a given class, space is allocated, its constructors are executed, etc.
That would be "elaboration" in a broad sense of the word.

MDC
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Marin David Condic
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"Grein, Christoph" <christoph.grein@eurocopter.com> wrote in message
news:mailman.1025168582.8834.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org...
> > Eh... What is elaboration? Can it be explained in C++ terms?
>
> Not knowing C++, I'll use Ada terminology :-b
>

Re: Elaboration Schmelaboration...

[Ted Dennison]

Marin David Condic wrote:
> O.K., but C++ also has declarations, so there *is* an analogy. Granted, the
> whole scheme of things is dramatically different, (Header files don't
> actually "execute" and inclusion of such things is lexical inclusion, etc.)
> but you can see the same sort of things happening. When declaring an object
> of a given class, space is allocated, its constructors are executed, etc.
> That would be "elaboration" in a broad sense of the word.

Closer would be the initialization of C++ static members, particularly 
if you assign initial values based on a function call. You can even get 
into some of the same issues, if you do this a lot and some of the 
initilizations depend on other static members being initialized.

Elaboration Schmelaboration...

[David Rasmussen]

Eh... What is elaboration? Can it be explained in C++ terms?

Re: Elaboration Schmelaboration...

[Georg Bauhaus]

David Rasmussen <pinkfloydhomer@yahoo.com> wrote:
: Eh... What is elaboration? Can it be explained in C++ terms?

There are explanations/examples in the GNAT users guide.
See "Elaboration Order Handling in GNAT."
-- Georg