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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: OOD in Ada?
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 14:55:21 -0400
Date: 2002-06-25T18:55:23+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <afaear$84m$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: afab31$a4c$2@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de

If you start changing Ada to have "class" constructs and object->method
syntax and so on to make the Java/C++ programmers comfortable, you're just
migrating Ada into becoming Java/C++ rather than being what it is. Assuming
you could get there at all, you'd end up having to change so many paradigms
and assumptions within the language, that it would either get broken badly
or just start being C++/Java only with some slight variations. Once you do
that, why bother with Ada at all? Why not just go use Java/C++?

It doesn't seem like it is worth it to start changing syntax and structures
that will be non-orthogonal with the rest of Ada & make existing programs
either broke or unrecognizable or confusing (New-Ada syntax or Old-Ada
syntax?). To upset the installed base of users and the installed base of
code by that much, you'd have to really believe there is some huge benefit
to be had. So far, there is no evidence that anything is that badly broke or
that changing anything is going to win thousands of new converts. If Ada is
sinking, its just re-aranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. If Ada is
growing, eventually the converts will get used to what is already there. Its
not as if these superficial things are *preventing* anyone from
accomplishing some important goal. A (possibly "ugly" in the eyes of some
beholders) solution does exist.

MDC
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Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas    www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
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"Georg Bauhaus" <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> wrote in message
news:afab31$a4c$2@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de...
>
> As a first step, try one of your programs with capitals
> made lower case, and do not use a monospaced font.
> Look at your Ada++ program then :-)
>
> (Then, make keywords use a bold grotesque and identifiers
> italic (antiqua), Symbols for symbols. Look again ... :-)






  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-25 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-21 16:39 OOD in Ada? David Crocker
2002-06-21 17:20 ` Pat Rogers
2002-06-21 19:37   ` Ed Falis
2002-06-23  3:05   ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-23  7:03     ` tmoran
2002-06-24 21:41       ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-24 14:19     ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-21 17:22 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-22  4:42 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-06-22  9:18 ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-06-22  9:47   ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-22 13:11     ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-06-22 13:46       ` OOD in Ada? Correction Dr. Michael Paus
2002-06-22 18:21         ` Simon Wright
2002-06-28 23:57         ` Randy Brukardt
2002-07-09  8:45           ` Preben Randhol
2002-07-09 17:12             ` Mark Biggar
2002-07-09 19:40             ` Randy Brukardt
2002-06-23  3:33   ` OOD in Ada? steve_H
2002-06-23  4:55     ` Jim Rogers
2002-06-23  5:33       ` achrist
2002-06-25 18:00       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-25 18:55         ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2002-07-07 18:19           ` Daniel Dudley
2002-06-23  7:46     ` Dr. Michael Paus
2002-06-24  5:06       ` steve_H
2002-06-23 19:26   ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-06-22 22:47 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-06-24 20:03 ` Kevin Cline
2002-06-25 13:32   ` David Crocker
2002-06-25 13:58     ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-26 18:16       ` tmoran
2002-06-26 18:47         ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-27 18:23           ` tmoran
2002-06-28 13:09             ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-26  0:59     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-06-26  4:57       ` Jim Rogers
2002-06-26 12:49       ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-26  9:01     ` Fraser Wilson
2002-06-29  0:08       ` Randy Brukardt
2002-07-01 11:50         ` Fraser Wilson
2002-07-05 20:02     ` Stephen J. Bevan
2002-07-09 19:19 ` Craig Carey
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