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From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
Subject: Re: Use of XML for config files
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:54:02 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2002-06-13T17:54:02+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aeam7q$dbg$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3D08CAF0.846AA176@san.rr.com

Darren New <dnew@san.rr.com> wrote:
:> Incidentally, comments aren't lost in XML and each comment
:> belongs to an element. Namely, the element in which it appears.
: 
: OK, here's the problem with that.

Agreed. It wasn't my intention to be an advocate of convention driven
comment-thing association.

In particular when semantics isn't captured anywhere but in the
natural language of the comment, this becomes rather difficult
for computer languages, yes.  Insertion of commented items will have
the potential of destroying essential order and thus sense. 
Bad Thing. That leaves the ends of lists, right?

Of course if information _is_ bound to some item, that could
be made explicit. Somewhat like coments in Lisp or python functions.

: Gobal config file:
: Local config file:

: Now, in my API, I add the key "pock" to foo, with the value "A winner!", and
: I want to put a comment before it. Please show what that call looks like,
: and explain how the library decides to keep the local comments and/or the
: global config file comments, when I save the local config file back out.

Uhm, you have named the things to consider for a policy. Have I missed
something? Merging, overriding, combining, how should that appear in
an API independent of any file format?

: It sounds like by using XML, you're introducing all kinds of ordering
: dependencies in the file,

No that is introduced by using comments as data and has nothing to
do with XML. Are there no ordering implications with two config files
and a pook in 

; comment
kv
...

:treating the database as an XML structure rather
: than something closer to a hashtable,

Yes. That is what I would like to see. Something that is different
from but including lookup tables.

: and so you have to decide how to merge
: two XML files and output a new one with the same semantics.

Indeed. 

: Difficult to do, in the case of comments.

Independent of whether pairs are stored linearly ordered in INI file
format, or in XML, no?

--  Georg



  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-06-13 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-06-03 11:48 Use of XML for config files Mike and Lynn Card
2002-06-03 17:42 ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-04  6:26 ` Volkert Barr
2002-06-04 12:47   ` SteveD
2002-06-04 13:51     ` Volkert Barr
2002-06-04 19:29   ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-05  7:18     ` Volkert Barr
2002-06-05 10:24       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-05 11:35         ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-05 14:52           ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-05 15:22             ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-05 19:11             ` Darren New
2002-06-06 13:38               ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-06 15:06                 ` Darren New
2002-06-07 11:28                   ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-07 17:10                     ` Darren New
2002-06-06  6:48           ` Volkert Barr
2002-06-06 13:27             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-05 14:41       ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-09 22:00     ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-10 15:03       ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-10 18:12         ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-12 11:25         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-12 15:33           ` Darren New
2002-06-12 17:53             ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-13 14:18               ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-13 16:36                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-14  3:27                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-14 15:54                     ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-12 19:18             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-13 13:53             ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-13 15:26               ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-13 16:39               ` Darren New
2002-06-13 17:06                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-13 17:43                   ` Darren New
2002-06-14 15:56                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-13 17:54                 ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2002-06-13 18:31                   ` Darren New
2002-06-14 16:04                     ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-14 16:48                       ` Darren New
2002-06-14 17:03                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-14 17:22                       ` Darren New
2002-06-18 15:20                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-18 15:37                           ` Darren New
2002-06-18 18:20                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-18 19:11                               ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-18 21:47                               ` Darren New
2002-06-19 11:31                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-19 15:13                                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-19 21:14                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-20 14:38                                       ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-20 16:02                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-20 20:37                                           ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-21 16:24                                             ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-24 14:11                                               ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-19 16:43                                   ` Darren New
2002-06-19 20:33                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-12 17:48           ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-13  7:42             ` Tarjei T. Jensen
2002-06-13 13:53               ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-13 14:10               ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-13 16:50                 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-06-13 17:31                   ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2002-06-14 16:11                   ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-13 17:28                 ` Tarjei Tj�stheim Jensen
2002-06-19  9:48                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-10 14:45     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-09 21:52   ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-10  0:02     ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-10 12:42       ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-10 16:21         ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-12 11:29           ` Georg Bauhaus
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-06-05  7:33 Grein, Christoph
2002-06-05  7:59 ` Volkert Barr
2002-06-05  8:25 Grein, Christoph
2002-06-05  8:39 ` Volkert Barr
2002-06-05  9:31 ` Manuel Collado
2002-06-05 10:01   ` Volkert Barr
2002-06-05 10:02 Grein, Christoph
2002-06-09 22:13 ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-10  1:42   ` Darren New
2002-06-10 12:46     ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-10 15:52       ` Darren New
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