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From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
Subject: Re: XML and Ada was RE: A standard package for config files is needed
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 10:55:48 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2002-06-07T10:55:48+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <adq3fk$768$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.1023410042.7977.comp.lang.ada@ada.eu.org

Robert C. Leif <rleif@rleif.com> wrote:
: My comments were specifically directed to XML schema. Therefore, the
: SGML handbook is only of historical interest. 

Uhm, I think this is a misunderstanding (and a big one :-).
(The SGML Handbook, for those who haven't seen it, is much
like the combination of the Ada Annotated RM + Rationale,
with respect to ISO 8879 (SGML).)

XML ist still just a subset of SGML, and schema definitions 
can (therefore) be expressed in SGML, but they need not even
be expressed in XML. More importantly (and this
is why I've found the quote interesting): some of the intentions
behind schemas (more semantic information about document data
element types) are not an entirely new argument. (The author (Goldfarb)
is, I think you know, one of the two authors of The XML Handbook.)

: If I obtain an XML schema that has not been strongly typed, wherever
: possible, I create the equivalent of Ada subtypes with explicit ranges. 

This is what I wanted to point out in the quote. While I agree
that it would be nice, if at all possible, to have a consensually
defined data type (using a schema expressed in XML) independent
of a programming language, I would want this as part of the
minimal requirements section of some document, and then use the
best language techniques to implement software fulfilling these
requirements.

-- Georg



  reply	other threads:[~2002-06-07 10:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-28 10:59 A standard package for config files is needed Preben Randhol
2002-05-28 12:09 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-28 12:09   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-28 16:33 ` Darren New
2002-05-28 18:10   ` achrist
2002-05-28 20:28     ` Darren New
2002-05-28 22:35   ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-29  3:13     ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-29  7:18       ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-29 14:40         ` The commercial world needs Ada was " Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29 16:29           ` Darren New
2002-05-29 23:26             ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-30  0:10               ` Darren New
2002-05-29 17:08         ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-29 19:34           ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-29 11:01   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 16:23     ` Darren New
2002-05-29 21:42       ` achrist
2002-05-30  9:53         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-30 14:45         ` Gautier
2002-05-30 17:00           ` achrist
2002-05-28 20:44 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-29 11:05   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 18:09   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-29 18:59   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-29 19:49     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-30 17:52       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-30 18:21         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-30 22:55           ` Darren New
2002-05-31 15:52             ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-31 21:31               ` tmoran
2002-06-01 15:39                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03 13:05                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-30 20:00         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31  6:43         ` Mats Karlssohn
2002-05-31 22:04           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29  2:18 ` SteveD
2002-05-29 11:07   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 12:57     ` SteveD
2002-05-29 13:05       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 13:52         ` SteveD
2002-05-29 13:57           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 16:30           ` Darren New
2002-05-29 19:24             ` Simon Wright
2002-05-30  9:54               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 14:41     ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29 14:59       ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-29 15:30       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 15:32       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 19:29         ` Simon Wright
2002-05-31 16:26           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 16:01       ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-01  2:27         ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-01 16:38           ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-01 17:48             ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-01 18:11               ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-02  3:30                 ` XML and Ada was " Robert C. Leif
2002-06-02  6:52                   ` Pascal Obry
2002-06-02 16:29                     ` XML and Ada Robert C. Leif
2002-06-02  7:54                   ` XML and Ada was RE: A standard package for config files is needed Gerhard Häring
2002-06-02 15:51                     ` Darren New
2002-06-02 19:02                       ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-02 20:52                         ` Gerhard Häring
2002-06-03  6:10                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-02 22:06                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03  2:17                           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-04 18:48                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-05 14:17                               ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-06 14:15                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-07  0:33                                   ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-07 10:55                                     ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2002-06-03  2:21                           ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-03 14:20                             ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-04  1:39                               ` SteveD
2002-06-03  6:13                           ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-04 18:54                           ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-06-09 20:01                             ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-09 22:24                               ` Eric G. Miller
2002-06-10 12:31                                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-12  4:17                                   ` Eric G. Miller
2002-06-01 20:36               ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-02  3:30                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-06-01 20:31             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29  7:22 ` Volkert
2002-05-29 14:41   ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-29 18:26   ` tmoran
2002-05-30  7:41     ` Volkert Barr
2002-05-30  8:34       ` tmoran
2002-05-30  9:03         ` Volkert Barr
2002-05-30 13:39         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31 16:25           ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-31 16:50             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 22:24               ` Ted Dennison
2002-06-01 15:44                 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-31 17:25             ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-01 13:51               ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-03 13:23                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-04 11:46                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-01 15:53               ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-30 15:08         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-30 16:07           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 16:39         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 21:31           ` tmoran
2002-05-31  9:05     ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-31 11:01       ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-31 13:15       ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-01 15:46         ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-01 16:50           ` Darren New
2002-05-31 13:34       ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-29 19:05   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-30  7:49     ` Volkert Barr
2002-05-31 16:42       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-29 17:56 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-29 18:25 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-30 19:58 ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-05-30 20:12   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31  7:37     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-31 13:21       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31 13:46         ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-01 11:23           ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-01 11:10         ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-01 15:50         ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03 12:53         ` Jacob Sparre Andersen
2002-05-30 23:08   ` Darren New
2002-05-31 13:30   ` Stephen Leake
2002-06-03  1:00 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-06-03  6:24   ` Preben Randhol
2002-06-03 15:54     ` Darren New
2002-06-03 16:49       ` Darren New
2002-06-09 21:27   ` Stephen Leake
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