From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Is strong typing worth the cost?
Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:26:06 -0400
Date: 2002-05-28T15:26:07+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ad07if$k1c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3CF1231F.6000609@attbi.com
My experience is similar and I totally agree. When working with Ada I either
generate errors that are caught at compile time or with a runtime exception
& the error is pretty obvious, or its the kind of profound, metaphysical
error that a debugger would be worthless at catching anyway. ("You wanted
the program to do what????" :-) I'm sure the gdb tool is a wonderful thing,
but I've never turned it on and tried to figure out how to get it to work.
Usually a few well placed Put_Line calls will get the info much faster & I
don't generally need that very often. (Or its the kind of "Debugging" that
you want to leave in place in the production code anyway...)
Now when programming in C/C++? I can't live without the debugger!
MDC
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Marin David Condic
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"Robert I. Eachus" <rieachus@attbi.com> wrote in message
news:3CF1231F.6000609@attbi.com...
> options enabled, then run it first via the debugger. Ada programmers
> tend to compile with debug options turned off, and personally I have
> never used the debugger that comes with GNAT. (I did use the Verdix
> debugger a few times though.)
>
> In my personal experience, I make very few coding errors that are not
> caught by the compiler, and many of these are output formatting errors.
> When I do need to debug something, it is actually the algorithm that I
> am debugging/testing, and test cases plus occasional embedded print
> statements are IMHO the best tool for that.
>
>
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2002-04-28 17:07 Is strong typing worth the cost? dmjones
2002-04-29 15:22 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-29 15:53 ` Pat Rogers
2002-04-29 18:37 ` dmjones
2002-04-29 18:50 ` Pat Rogers
2002-04-29 19:00 ` Darren New
2002-04-30 11:50 ` Marc A. Criley
2002-04-30 13:24 ` dmjones
2002-04-30 15:03 ` Jim Rogers
2002-04-30 16:48 ` dmjones
2002-04-30 17:45 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 21:36 ` Brian Gaffney
2002-04-30 18:20 ` tmoran
2002-04-30 19:00 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 15:20 ` dmjones
2002-05-01 16:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 5:00 ` Simon Wright
2002-05-02 7:55 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-01 16:51 ` Darren New
2002-05-01 17:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 16:09 ` Darren New
2002-05-03 13:46 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-03 22:54 ` Darren New
2002-05-01 18:22 ` tmoran
2002-05-01 18:50 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 20:30 ` Dan Andreatta
2002-05-01 21:47 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-02 15:43 ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-30 19:01 ` Preben Randhol
2002-04-30 19:28 ` Preben Randhol
2002-04-30 20:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 8:36 ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-01 11:50 ` Gary Scott
2002-05-01 13:39 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 2:24 ` Darren New
2002-05-02 15:47 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 16:37 ` Darren New
2002-05-02 19:59 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-02 21:48 ` Darren New
2002-05-02 22:16 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 23:52 ` Darren New
2002-05-03 0:17 ` Aidan Skinner
2002-05-03 0:31 ` Aidan Skinner
2002-05-03 15:10 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-03 16:06 ` Darren New
2002-05-06 16:37 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-06 17:40 ` Darren New
2002-05-07 2:06 ` tmoran
2002-05-07 15:21 ` Darren New
2002-05-07 19:11 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-03 15:31 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-03 16:21 ` Darren New
2002-05-06 15:33 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-06 16:30 ` Darren New
2002-05-03 15:38 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-03 16:07 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-03 19:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-03 20:55 ` Ed Falis
2002-05-04 16:34 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-05-03 0:22 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-03 0:48 ` Darren New
2002-05-03 12:11 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-03 14:27 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-04 0:23 ` Darren New
2002-05-06 17:54 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-07 15:28 ` Darren New
2002-05-07 17:54 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-03 14:01 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-03 23:41 ` Gary Scott
2002-05-06 18:05 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 14:19 ` Pascal Obry
2002-05-01 13:27 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 14:28 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-01 15:25 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 15:51 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 16:47 ` Gary Scott
2002-05-02 18:24 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-02 18:48 ` Dan Nagle
2002-05-03 8:44 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-03 10:17 ` Gary Scott
2002-05-03 10:48 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-03 13:13 ` Gary Scott
2002-05-03 14:40 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-03 14:32 ` Dan Nagle
2002-05-02 17:26 ` Larry Hazel
2002-05-02 18:12 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 18:40 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-02 21:54 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 18:54 ` Gary Scott
2002-05-02 21:56 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-26 17:56 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-26 22:04 ` Brian Rogoff
2002-05-27 23:26 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-28 15:26 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2002-05-02 11:30 ` Larry Kilgallen
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2002-05-02 16:12 ` Darren New
2002-04-30 21:17 ` Jim Rogers
2002-04-30 21:30 ` Darren New
2002-05-07 12:17 ` Colin Paul Gloster
2002-05-07 22:11 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-04-30 15:39 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 14:39 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-01 15:42 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 20:17 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-03 14:40 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-26 16:51 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-28 15:16 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-30 17:02 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-30 17:27 ` Darren New
2002-04-30 20:15 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-04-30 20:42 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 12:00 ` Marc A. Criley
2002-05-02 15:20 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-02 16:19 ` Darren New
2002-05-03 14:44 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-30 21:40 ` Darren New
2002-04-30 21:43 ` tmoran
2002-04-30 22:38 ` Darren New
2002-04-30 18:04 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-30 17:27 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-04-30 17:35 ` Marc A. Criley
2002-05-01 4:01 ` Richard Riehle
2002-04-29 16:02 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 0:31 ` dmjones
2002-05-01 8:05 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-01 8:07 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-01 14:32 ` Mike Silva
2002-05-01 15:52 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 16:17 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 18:53 ` tmoran
2002-05-02 18:58 ` Pat Rogers
2002-05-01 15:35 ` Jim Rogers
2002-05-01 16:17 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 18:42 ` dmjones
2002-05-01 20:12 ` Dan Andreatta
2002-05-01 20:19 ` Darren New
2002-05-01 22:17 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-02 16:18 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-01 21:46 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-01 22:21 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-02 11:28 ` John English
2002-05-02 16:18 ` Darren New
2002-05-02 16:41 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-02 18:28 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-02 19:53 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-03 12:12 ` Andrzej Filip
2002-05-03 10:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-05-26 22:46 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-27 8:10 ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-01 22:47 ` Jim Rogers
2002-05-01 16:32 ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-01 17:59 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-01 19:08 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-01 21:10 ` Brian Gaffney
2002-05-03 2:45 ` dmjones
2002-05-03 7:59 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-03 8:43 ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-03 8:55 ` Martin Dowie
2002-05-03 8:51 ` Preben Randhol
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2002-04-29 19:21 Beard, Frank [Contractor]
2002-04-29 20:15 ` dmjones
2002-04-29 23:26 Beard, Frank [Contractor]
2002-04-30 18:08 Beard, Frank [Contractor]
2002-05-01 11:07 ` David Gillon
2002-04-30 20:32 Beard, Frank [Contractor]
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