From: "Chad R. Meiners" <crmeiners@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Turing-undecidable languages (OT)
Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 12:18:02 -0400
Date: 2002-05-09T12:18:02-04:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <abe7ir$2ktu$1@msunews.cl.msu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: abddca$h96t0$1@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de
"Dmitry A.Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> wrote in message
news:abddca$h96t0$1@ID-77047.news.dfncis.de...
> If I
> correctly understood it, Tom considers a problem regading programs of
fixed
> size, while opponents attack him with the results valid for infinite
cases.
Where do you see people attacking Tom in this discusion of TMs? This whole
discusion started when Tom replied to Robert with the following statement:
> So the set of instructions emitted by Gnat when it compiles bubble sort
> code may or may not constitute a general sorting algorithm, and whether
> it does or not is undecidable? I learn something new every day.
I tried to clarify Robert's statement and answer some other questions as
they poped up. But as far as attacking Tom's idea of randoming generating
sorting algoritms with predefined time and space bounds, I would do no such
thing because placing bounds on algorithms is one way to change the halting
problem to make it decidable.
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Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-04-29 11:54 Generation of permutations Reinert Korsnes
2002-04-30 13:52 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-30 14:20 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-02 12:32 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-02 15:47 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-02 16:16 ` Mark Biggar
2002-05-03 13:04 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-05 0:52 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-05 23:11 ` tmoran
2002-05-06 2:13 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-06 13:52 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-09 17:44 ` Darren New
2002-05-09 18:07 ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-09 20:58 ` Darren New
2002-05-09 23:21 ` tmoran
2002-05-09 23:51 ` Darren New
2002-05-10 3:37 ` tmoran
2002-05-10 3:59 ` Darren New
2002-05-10 13:13 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-25 16:21 ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-09 23:24 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-09 23:48 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-10 3:37 ` tmoran
2002-05-10 15:10 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-11 4:04 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-16 1:35 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-11 4:05 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-06 15:46 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-06 16:21 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-06 16:33 ` Darren New
2002-05-07 0:06 ` tmoran
2002-05-07 0:26 ` Darren New
2002-05-07 1:56 ` tmoran
2002-05-07 10:39 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-07 17:25 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-08 2:27 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-08 8:44 ` Mats Karlssohn
2002-05-07 17:00 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-06 21:33 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-06 17:26 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-07 7:35 ` tmoran
2002-05-07 13:22 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-08 5:23 ` tmoran
2002-05-08 14:10 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-09 16:20 ` Darren New
2002-05-09 19:04 ` tmoran
2002-05-08 16:20 ` Darren New
2002-05-08 17:31 ` tmoran
2002-05-08 17:39 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-07 15:34 ` Darren New
2002-05-07 17:44 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-07 19:58 ` tmoran
2002-05-07 21:05 ` Turing-undecidable languages (OT) Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-08 8:24 ` Danx
2002-05-08 17:16 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-10 2:37 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-08 9:16 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2002-05-08 17:18 ` Chad R. Meiners
2002-05-09 20:56 ` Dmitry A.Kazakov
2002-05-09 16:18 ` Chad R. Meiners [this message]
2002-05-10 2:52 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-08 2:17 ` Generation of permutations Robert Dewar
2002-05-03 13:13 ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-03 13:24 ` Lutz Donnerhacke
2002-04-30 15:06 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-01 8:40 ` Adrian Hoe
2002-05-01 19:53 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-11 1:52 ` Steven Deller
2002-05-02 16:24 ` Mark Biggar
2002-04-30 17:12 ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-30 22:57 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-01 0:54 ` tmoran
2002-05-01 9:42 ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-02 12:34 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-01 12:43 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-01 15:05 ` TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 12:27 ` More on copyright, (Re: TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN) Robert Dewar
2002-05-08 13:56 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-08 18:01 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-08 18:31 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-05-09 13:41 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-01 12:46 ` Generation of permutations Robert Dewar
2002-05-01 18:22 ` OT:Copyright, was " tmoran
2002-05-01 21:56 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-01 23:45 ` tmoran
2002-05-02 11:58 ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-01 14:55 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-02 12:41 ` Robert Dewar
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