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From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: SLOC-wars
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:54:27 -0400
Date: 2002-04-10T14:54:28+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a91jn4$8v0$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4519e058.0204100539.55abecac@posting.google.com

"Ted Dennison" <dennison@telepath.com> wrote in message
news:4519e058.0204100539.55abecac@posting.google.com...
>
> At GE we called it "career limiting move", or CLM. CLM was the name of
> my vollyeball team in the GE league. :-)
>
We sort of preferred "altering" as a kind of non-judgemental-sarcasm. Being
reassigned to some hell-hole corner of the plant to run mindless disk
backups until you retired was "Just An Alternate Career Path" - you're being
"Judgemental" when you say it isn't as good as "Vice President of
Engineering". :-)


>
> My typical reaction to this is to say: "Well then...what funtionality
> would you like to remove?". I always have my favorite removal
> candidates handy too, with savings estimate. :-)
>
Yeah. Great technique. Here's a problem. You don't usually build "extras"
into an engine control. Everything in there has to be there or the engine
doesn't run. (A handful of exceptions, but not many) So you can't always
come in with a stripped down version.

But the technique is wonderful for workstationish apps where you can say
"Here's the 27 screens we originally planned and on which I based my
estimate. Which ones do you want to live without in order to get the
deadline you want?


> The best response I ever saw though came from the legendary Gendreaux.
> He walked up to the whiteboard in front of them all and wrote the
> following:
> ---
>   o  Bugdet
>   o  Quality
>   o  Schedule
> Pick any two
> ---
>
The classic triangle. "Good" vs "Fast" vs "Cheap". The problem is that the
usual kind of guy who makes it to Senior Bozo status is the kind of guy who
gets the square peg into a round hole with a mallet. Sometimes their reality
checks bounce. One of my favorite manager jokes:

Engineer: "Hi, I came over to help you move your piano."
Manager: "Thanks. I already got it moved."
Engineer: "How'd you get that piano moved all by yourself?"
Manager: "Hitched the cat to it."
Engineer: "How did you get a tiny little cat to pull that piano up three
flights of stairs?!?!?"
Manager: "Used a whip!"

MDC
--
Marin David Condic
Senior Software Engineer
Pace Micro Technology Americas    www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
e-Mail:    marin.condic@pacemicro.com





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Thread overview: 97+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-03-28 11:10 AdaGames Enrico A.
2002-03-28 12:29 ` AdaGames Erik Sigra
2002-03-28 14:30   ` AdaGames Preben Randhol
2002-03-28 16:47     ` AdaGames Erik Sigra
2002-03-28 17:55       ` AdaGames Preben Randhol
2002-03-28 18:48         ` AdaGames Erik Sigra
2002-03-28 19:13           ` AdaGames Stephen Leake
2002-03-28 21:58           ` AdaGames Preben Randhol
2002-03-29  7:10           ` AdaGames Bobby D. Bryant
2002-03-29 20:25             ` AdaGames Erik Sigra
2002-03-28 16:00   ` AdaGames chris.danx
2002-03-28 16:27     ` AdaGames Preben Randhol
2002-03-28 20:49       ` AdaGames Kent Paul Dolan
2002-03-28 22:02         ` AdaGames Preben Randhol
2002-04-02 23:11           ` AdaGames Kent Paul Dolan
2002-03-28 18:11     ` AdaGames chris.danx
2002-03-28 19:21   ` AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-03-29  7:20     ` AdaGames Bobby D. Bryant
2002-03-29 14:28       ` AdaGames Wes Groleau
2002-03-29 14:51       ` AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-03-28 20:39   ` AdaGames (SDL) Chad R. Meiners
2002-03-28 15:07 ` AdaGames Marin David Condic
2002-03-29  2:14   ` AdaGames Darren New
2002-03-29 14:15     ` AdaGames Marin David Condic
2002-03-30  1:43       ` AdaGames Darren New
2002-04-01 14:23         ` AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-04-01 16:57           ` AdaGames Darren New
2002-04-01 22:18             ` AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-04-01 22:42               ` AdaGames Darren New
2002-03-28 15:13 ` AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-03-29  7:24   ` AdaGames Bobby D. Bryant
2002-03-28 20:55 ` AdaGames Kent Paul Dolan
2002-03-28 22:47   ` AdaGames Randy Brukardt
2002-03-29 14:53     ` AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-04-02  2:05       ` AdaGames Randy Brukardt
2002-03-29 15:08     ` AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-03-28 20:59 ` Nethack! (was): AdaGames Kent Paul Dolan
2002-03-29 14:13   ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-01  8:01     ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-04-01 15:04       ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-02  9:27         ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-04-02 14:54           ` Preben Randhol
2002-04-03  6:43             ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-04-02 18:30           ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-03  7:02             ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-04-03 15:06               ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-03 15:31                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-04  4:40                   ` tmoran
2002-04-04  6:14                     ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-04 14:16                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-04  6:10                   ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-04 14:26                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-04  6:56                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-04-04 16:46                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-05  7:37                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-04-03  9:44             ` Preben Randhol
2002-04-03 15:50               ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-03 16:14                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-04 16:09                   ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-04 16:48                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-04 16:57                     ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-04-04 18:07                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-05  5:14                       ` SLOC-wars Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-05  8:36                         ` SLOC-wars Bobby D. Bryant
2002-04-05 14:37                           ` SLOC-wars Marin David Condic
2002-04-08 13:35                             ` SLOC-wars Ted Dennison
2002-04-08 14:12                               ` SLOC-wars Marin David Condic
2002-04-09 14:15                                 ` SLOC-wars Wes Groleau
2002-04-05 14:25                         ` SLOC-wars Marin David Condic
2002-04-07 19:07                           ` SLOC-wars John R. Strohm
2002-04-08 14:59                           ` SLOC-wars Wes Groleau
2002-04-08 15:13                             ` SLOC-wars Marin David Condic
2002-04-05 22:51                         ` SLOC-wars John R. Strohm
2002-04-06 22:19                           ` SLOC-wars Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-06 23:17                             ` SLOC-wars Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-08 14:35                               ` SLOC-wars Marin David Condic
2002-04-09 15:04                                 ` SLOC-wars Wes Groleau
2002-04-10 13:39                                 ` SLOC-wars Ted Dennison
2002-04-10 14:54                                   ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2002-04-07 18:58                             ` SLOC-wars John R. Strohm
2002-04-08 15:06                           ` SLOC-wars Wes Groleau
2002-04-05 14:43                     ` Nethack! (was): AdaGames Ted Dennison
2002-04-05 14:51                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-05 20:41                       ` Metrics! (was) " Wes Groleau
2002-04-06 22:11                         ` Kent Paul Dolan
2002-04-08 13:29                         ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-03 17:09                 ` Bobby D. Bryant
2002-04-04 14:19                   ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-03 17:17                 ` Jean-Pierre Rosen
2002-04-04 16:19                 ` Preben Randhol
2002-04-04 16:47                   ` SLOC! (was Nethack! (was): AdaGames) Wes Groleau
2002-04-01 18:05       ` Nethack! (was): AdaGames Ralph Moeritz
2002-04-02  9:29         ` Juanma Barranquero
2002-03-29  1:52 ` AdaGames Adrian Hoe
2002-03-29  7:29 ` AdaGames Bobby D. Bryant
2002-04-02 23:43   ` Nethack (again)!: AdaGames Kent Paul Dolan
2002-03-29 18:40 ` AdaGames Pascal Obry
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