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From: "Juergen Pfeifer" <nospam@nospam.org>
Subject: Re: Ada & .Net (Rotor)
Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 11:46:16 +0200
Date: 2002-04-08T11:46:16+02:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a8rot5$6r3$07$1@news.t-online.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: a8efq6$4kj$1@news.iucc.ac.il

Well, nevertheless reading the Ada.Net thread I see that most
people don't realize what's going on. Even on CLA you find
mostly MS bashing instead of an educated and skilled discussion.

To me it seems that most people don't realize that the Win2000
kernel is a huge difference to NT4, not to say the W9x kernel.
Win2000 (and better) is for sure one of the best, secure and
stable OS in the market. And .NET on top of this OS provides
a component model for the Internet, something that is far beyond
what Java provides. But it is easier to talk about the past and
bash on MS than to look at what they provide today and for
the future.

So Ada.Net is the story of two entities that carry the burden
of bad fame. Ada is the design by commitee, military only,
verrrrrrbose ancient language and MS is a toy company
crowded by teenage hackers writing software for dummies.
I doubt that this mixture will ever work together;-)

Rotor may change the perception a bit. Now people can look
at the very heart of the .NET architecture, the CLI and the
C# compiler and they can see themself how MS code is
advancing the state of the art. But again, it's easier to bash
that to lern...

J�rgen

P.S.: This is my personal opinion. I'm not speaking for my
employer.

"Ehud Lamm" <mslamm@huji.ac.il> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:a8efq6$4kj$1@news.iucc.ac.il...
>
> "Juergen Pfeifer" <juergen.pfeifer@gmx.net> wrote in message
> news:a8ddsd$2nh$01$1@news.t-online.com...
> > Generics are an interesting topic wrt the problem whether or not this
can
> be
> > done on the CLR level.
> > Is it possible to have a generic written in one language and
instantiated
> in
> > another language? At
> > least the both languages must agree on the semantics of genericity. I
> think
> > this is a current area of
> > research inside one of the MS dotnet research teams.
>
> Those interested in generics for the CLR shoud read the paper linked from
> http://lambda.weblogs.com/discuss/msgReader$1450
>
> Proceedings of the ACM SIGPLAN '00 conference on Programming language
design
> and implementation (PLDI'00).   Design and implementation of generics for
> the .NET Common language runtime. Andrew Kennedy, Don Syme
>
> Ehud
>
>











  reply	other threads:[~2002-04-08  9:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-04-02 16:01 Ada & .Net (Rotor) Ehud Lamm
2002-04-02 23:12 ` Juergen Pfeifer
2002-04-03  9:48   ` Ehud Lamm
2002-04-08  9:46     ` Juergen Pfeifer [this message]
2002-04-08 14:45       ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-08 17:10         ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-08 17:31           ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-08 17:35             ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-08 17:39           ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-09  6:51         ` Juergen Pfeifer
2002-04-09  9:11           ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-10  8:44             ` Juergen Pfeifer
2002-04-10  7:42           ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-04-10  8:41             ` Juergen Pfeifer
2002-04-10 13:50               ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-10 14:35                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-11 12:52                   ` Mário Amado Alves
2002-04-15 22:05                     ` Juergen Pfeifer
2002-04-16  8:17                       ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-16  9:16                       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-16 20:06                       ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-11 16:56                   ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-11 18:12                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-11 22:08                     ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-12 16:11                       ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-12 21:14                         ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-04-15 13:19                           ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12 21:14                     ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 21:27                       ` Ed Falis
2002-04-13  1:14                         ` Ingo Marks
2002-04-13  8:37                       ` Pascal Obry
2002-04-15 21:36                       ` Juergen Pfeifer
2002-04-15 23:59                         ` jim
2002-04-17 13:57                           ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-16 10:57                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-16 13:06                           ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-16 15:14                           ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-16 20:12                         ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-16 21:26                           ` Ed Falis
2002-04-10 15:01               ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-10 22:58                 ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-11  0:05                   ` David Brown
2002-04-11 13:24                     ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-11 15:55                       ` Darren New
2002-04-11 16:37                         ` [OT] ping alternatives Wes Groleau
2002-04-11 18:11                       ` Ada & .Net (Rotor) Ted Dennison
2002-04-11 19:46                         ` Wes Groleau
2002-04-11 20:38                           ` Marin David Condic
2002-04-12  1:49                         ` Steve Doiel
2002-04-12 14:27                           ` Ted Dennison
2002-04-12 16:01                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-15 21:41                 ` Juergen Pfeifer
2002-04-08 17:34       ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-04-17  1:37 ` [OT] (was): " Kent Paul Dolan
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2002-04-08 20:05 Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
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2002-04-08 21:26 ` David C. Hoos
2002-04-10 15:36 Alexandre E. Kopilovitch
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