From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 23:05:11 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-09-22T23:05:11-07:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6844f58-5be9-4983-94bf-d5182c7b76cd@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l1oin2$el1$2@speranza.aioe.org>
On Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:14:12 PM UTC-6, Nasser M. Abbasi wrote:
>
> Also that devices of any sort, can be viewed as files. This is a nice
> and clean interface design.
No, it really isn't. (Nice, anyway; clean is very arguable.)
Devices *aren't* files, and viewing them as files forces you to the lowest common denominator: much like those claiming "it's all binary [so types don't matter]" it fails to realize the fundamental differences between the devices just as the "it's a blob of binary" fails to realize that arithmetic-addition on a string is not good.
> A socket is treated as a file just as well as
> a plain text file or a hard disk device. Piping and stdout/stdin/stderr
> etc... all makes things work well together.
Until the crapracular file-system screws up permissions.
> Make one small program that does one thing, but does it very well, is
> what I like about Unix/Linux. (...but I am still waiting for the year that
> Linux finally figures how to build an easy to use desktop :)
Because of the above mentality*, it may never happen.
* Ease of implementation over ease of use. (The Unix mentality also elevates implementation-ease over correctness.)
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Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-20 22:18 Anti-Ada FUD (rant) krfkeith
2013-09-20 22:47 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-09-20 23:32 ` John B. Matthews
2013-09-21 12:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-22 0:47 ` gautier_niouzes
2013-09-22 21:24 ` Shark8
2013-09-23 4:43 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 5:14 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-09-23 6:05 ` Shark8 [this message]
2013-09-23 23:19 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-09-24 7:10 ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23 7:00 ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23 7:55 ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 8:31 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 8:37 ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23 8:52 ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 8:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-23 11:31 ` Bill Richards
2013-09-29 1:04 ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-24 1:40 ` Paul Rubin
2013-09-24 7:05 ` Bill Richards
2013-09-24 7:34 ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-24 7:49 ` Bill Richards
2013-09-24 10:47 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-24 10:38 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-24 15:39 ` Paul Rubin
2013-09-28 23:28 ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-23 5:55 ` Shark8
2013-09-23 6:12 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 7:34 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-09-23 8:36 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 9:36 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-09-23 9:39 ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 12:16 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 12:54 ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 14:32 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 22:06 ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-09-29 1:00 ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-23 7:26 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-24 6:03 ` Shark8
2013-09-24 7:51 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-26 20:58 ` erlo
2013-09-24 6:38 ` krfkeith
2013-09-24 23:18 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-09-28 6:21 ` Shark8
2013-09-28 14:40 ` Per Sandberg
2013-09-28 21:54 ` Dennis Lee Bieber
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