Re: Ada Operating System

["Chad R. Meiners" <crmeiners@hotmail.com>]

NTFS supports encrypting sensitive files.  So of course MS does not believe
that a propriety disk format is inherently secure!


"Dave Poirier" <instinc@users.sf.net> wrote in message
news:3C7E6E48.2000402@users.sf.net...
> chris.danx wrote:
> > "Ian Wild" <ian@cfmu.eurocontrol.be> wrote in message
> > news:3C7E4DE6.F184C408@cfmu.eurocontrol.be...
> >
> >>"chris.danx" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Joking aside... you could violate NTFS integrity and its security
model,
> >>>
> > so
> >
> >>>it's probably not a good idea especially if the program was boot from a
> >>>floppy.
> >>>
> >>What sort of "security model" is predicated on the
> >>bad guys not having a bootable floppy?
> >>
> >
> > I don't understand exactly what your asking, but if you mean what
security
> > model does NTFS have when someone boots from a floppy, then none -- it's
> > just a bunch of ones and zeros on a disk.  NTFS security model has to be
> > enforced by the operating system in some manner, so an OS has to be
present
> > to ensure the 'correctness' of the FS and enforce security.  The point
was
> > that NTFS and windows have a security model which would be circumvented
by
> > such a program, hence it's probably not a good idea to write such a
program.
> > The integrity of the NTFS volume could be compromised and the users'
data no
> > longer secure (as secure as the OS allows).
> >
> >
> > Chris.0
> > 00000
>
> This seems to be the only technique Microsoft knows, Security by
> obstruction.  They seriously believe that by hiding the "how" you do it,
> you will make your file system secure.  If they would even give it some
> serious thought they would know the only way to be secure on the long
> run is to use encryption.  Using a proper algorithm they could give away
> the algorithm as well as the exact details of how the files are stored
> on disk, after all it would just make it easier to create recovery tools.
>
>