From: "Marin David Condic" <dont.bother.mcondic.auntie.spam@[acm.org>
Subject: Re: Ada's Slide To Oblivion ...
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2002 14:52:48 -0500
Date: 2002-01-31T19:52:51+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a3c7aj$ehf$1@nh.pace.co.uk> (raw)
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"Warren W. Gay VE3WWG" <ve3wwg@home.com> wrote in message
news:3C598FF1.4040706@home.com...
>
>
> I think that even for those people that gave Ada an honest try, they still
> tend to slide back into what they know best. Not only does one have to
learn
> the language, but they need time to discover the standard packages and the
> different ways things need to be done in Ada (due to its software
engineering
> restrictions that are enforced). People will make a feeble attempt to
start
> something, and then hit a wall. Time runs out and they abandon the new
approach
> for a known one, in order to get the job done.
>
But there's a way to fix that. If a bunch of Ada die-hards who are convinced
that it is a better way were to identify some niche of the embedded market
that they wanted to go for and started doing it better/faster/cheaper,
they'd start becoming very effective competition. If your competitors are
always out the door a few months ahead of you because they aren't chasing
bugs forever, you have to start wondering what they are doing that you
aren't.
I think the problem has been that the guys who like Ada aren't the ones who
go off and design embedded products. Its a double-E guy who dreams up "Hey!
I can build this nifty little board that will do this spiffy job - and oh,
yeah, I'll have to do some software to get it all to work...". What if we
Ada guys turned that around? "Hey, I've got this spiffy idea for a neat
software system and all I'll need is a couple of SBC's that can drive these
devices....." I keep kicking around a few of those ideas in my copius spare
time. :-)
MDC
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Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com
Enabling the digital revolution
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2002-01-30 23:09 Ada's Slide To Oblivion Volkert
2002-01-30 23:57 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 3:04 ` Richard Riehle
2002-01-31 3:05 ` Eric Merritt
2002-01-31 16:26 ` Richard Riehle
2002-01-31 16:41 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-02-02 15:51 ` Zach Swanson
2002-02-02 19:18 ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 4:43 ` Richard Riehle
2002-01-31 14:37 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 15:14 ` Ted Dennison
2002-01-31 17:16 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 18:32 ` Steve O'Neill
2002-01-31 18:27 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-01-31 19:22 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 20:40 ` Christopher A. Bohn
2002-01-31 21:08 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-01 14:22 ` [off-topic - to lighten the air] Wes Groleau
2002-02-01 2:31 ` Ada's Slide To Oblivion Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 16:51 ` Jerry Petrey
2002-02-04 17:49 ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-04 18:24 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-05 9:04 ` DPH
2002-02-05 14:46 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-05 16:37 ` Wes Groleau
2002-02-05 17:22 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-05 18:42 ` Preben Randhol
2002-02-06 21:37 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-02-07 11:30 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-05 13:48 ` Georg Bauhaus
2002-02-06 7:07 ` Anders Wirzenius
2002-02-01 2:26 ` Richard Riehle
2002-02-01 14:27 ` A. Nonny Mouse
2002-02-01 17:18 ` Dale Pontius
2002-02-06 2:37 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-06 7:31 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-02-06 21:27 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-06 22:03 ` Ian S. Nelson
2002-02-07 1:44 ` Philip Cummins
2002-02-07 13:56 ` Ian Wild
2002-02-07 17:25 ` Ray Blaak
2002-02-07 19:20 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-02-07 21:36 ` David Brown
2002-02-08 10:36 ` Ian Wild
2002-02-08 12:23 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-02-08 12:51 ` Ian Wild
2002-02-08 14:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-08 15:52 ` Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
2002-02-08 13:08 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-08 21:28 ` Matthew Woodcraft
2002-02-08 21:45 ` Nick Roberts
2002-02-08 22:44 ` Darren New
2002-02-09 0:39 ` David Brown
2002-02-18 3:54 ` David Thompson
2002-02-06 14:59 ` Ian S. Nelson
2002-01-31 18:28 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-01-31 2:37 ` Jim Rogers
2002-01-31 15:02 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 18:28 ` Steve O'Neill
2002-01-31 19:41 ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-01-31 19:53 ` martin.m.dowie
2002-01-31 20:06 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 21:06 ` Steve O'Neill
2002-01-31 22:28 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 19:42 ` Marin David Condic
2002-01-31 18:41 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-01-31 19:52 ` Marin David Condic [this message]
2002-02-01 18:31 ` Warren W. Gay VE3WWG
2002-02-01 12:28 ` David Gillon
2002-02-01 21:02 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-02 4:05 ` Adrian Hoe
2002-02-02 12:51 ` Jeffrey Creem
2002-02-04 15:58 ` Marin David Condic
2002-02-02 4:02 ` Adrian Hoe
2002-02-02 17:35 ` tmoran
2002-02-01 1:42 ` Randy Brukardt
2002-02-01 16:56 ` Nick Roberts
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