From: Georg Bauhaus <sb463ba@l1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de>
Subject: Re: True faiths ( was Re: The true faith )
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 17:45:17 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2002-01-23T17:45:17+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <a2msrd$2eq$1@a1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: bruce-28A01B.10594823012002@news.paradise.net.nz
In comp.lang.ada Bruce Hoult <bruce@hoult.org> wrote:
: A large proportion [...ownership/deleting]
^^^^^
: With GC available, objects are seldom copied
^^^^^^
Yes, but what does frequency of an operation say about the importance
of the availability of the respective copying operation?
When an object has to be backed up (transaction, retransmission,
adventurous options of changing its state with backtracking,
recursively splitting processing to different processors/memories,
saving to files, ...), another pointer to serve the manipulation
is essentially useless, and GC or not GC is simply not the point.
For a concrete language example, why are there expanded objects in
Eiffel? And how does this relate to GC, and multitasking?
(I'm asking myself these questions to get a clear picture,
they are not merly rhetorical.)
Georg
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