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From: Ludovic Brenta <ludovic@ludovic-brenta.org>
Subject: Re: Air traffic control system in Java
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 00:26:57 -0800 (PST)
Date: 2011-03-04T00:26:57-08:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a1c71c44-881f-46cc-9d53-3a2254f05105@x13g2000vbe.googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 835e91b1-50f7-4b20-beaf-5b5afcc66cc5@r4g2000prm.googlegroups.com

Rick wrote on comp.lang.ada:
> On Mar 4, 4:46 am, Hyman Rosen <hyro...@mail.com> wrote:
>
>> <http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/security-threats/2011/03/02/air-traffic-c...>
>
> Something I pick from this article underpins that attitude of many
> folk towards Ada.  Simply, Ada does not (as a standard language)
> provide for construction of a Graphical User Interface.  Students (and
> commercial software houses), in my experience, insist that it is no
> use if you cannot draw pretty pictures with it.
>
> I realize that this is a major ask, but perhaps a focus of the next
> revision of Ada should be to remedy this situation.  Then an Air
> Traffic Control System operated by an interactive GUI with the speed,
> solidity and security that Ada brings would be a real possibility.
> Think of the possibilities for industrial programming!

Don't worry Rick, various air traffic control systems written in Ada,
with safety-critical GUIS, have been running 24x7 for the past 20
years or so, sometimes even longer than that.  There was no need for a
"standard" graphical framework, only for one that worked.  These apps
are so specialized anyway that a "standard" would probably have gotten
in the way of ergonomy.

The system I work on at Eurocontrol is not safety-critical but
definitely mission-critical and has had an X11 GUI since circa 1992.

Additionally I worked at Barco Avionics a few years ago and rest
assured that the safety-critical, hard real-time cockpit displays[1]
were quite graphical too, thank you very much.  And programmed 99% in
Ada and 1% assembly.

[1] http://www.barco.com/en/productcategory/18

--
Ludovic Brenta.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-04  8:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-03 20:46 Air traffic control system in Java Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:01 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-03 21:02   ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:12     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-08  7:26       ` Martin Krischik
2011-03-16 18:21         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:01 ` KK6GM
2011-03-03 21:13 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:27   ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:34     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:35       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 21:44         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 21:58           ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 22:16             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 23:29               ` Robert A Duff
2011-03-04  2:56                 ` anon
2011-03-05  5:31                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-03 22:36           ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-03 22:40             ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04  0:44               ` Georg Bauhaus
2011-03-03 22:50             ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-07 12:26     ` jimmaureenrogers
2011-03-07 15:09       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-03 22:50 ` Rick
2011-03-03 23:00   ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04  1:07     ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 17:07       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 17:24         ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 17:36           ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 18:00             ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 18:11               ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 18:18                 ` KK6GM
2011-03-04 18:24                   ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 18:51                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 20:18                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-04 20:23                         ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-04 21:31                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-04 21:44                             ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-04 22:08                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05  1:08                               ` Randy Brukardt
2011-03-05  5:15                                 ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  6:45                                   ` Shark8
2011-03-05  7:15                                     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  7:37                                       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-05  7:50                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  8:28                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05 23:32                                           ` Rick
2011-03-06  9:21                                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-06 22:47                                               ` Rick
2011-03-05  9:15                                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-05  9:27                                           ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-05  9:32                                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2011-03-05 11:37                                         ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-05 20:17                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-05 20:18                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-05 21:58                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06  0:13                                         ` GTK Ada, was: " Simon Clubley
2011-03-06  0:47                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 16:23                                           ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-06 17:09                                             ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 21:59                                               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-06 23:52                                                 ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-07  0:07                                                   ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 17:00                                         ` Jeffrey Carter
2011-03-06 17:54                                         ` Tero Koskinen
2011-03-05  8:07                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05  8:14                                         ` Shark8
2011-03-05  8:36                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-05  8:10                                       ` Shark8
2011-03-05  9:01                                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-06 23:22                                           ` Shark8
2011-03-07 15:27                                         ` Julian Leyh
2011-03-05 11:20                                 ` Peter C. Chapin
2011-03-07  5:06                                 ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-04 20:18                       ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2011-03-04 20:31                         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 17:14     ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 17:26       ` Hyman Rosen
2011-03-05  5:25         ` Vinzent Hoefler
2011-03-04 17:34       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2011-03-04 18:17       ` Shark8
2011-03-04 23:40     ` Rick
2011-03-04  8:26   ` Ludovic Brenta [this message]
2011-03-06 22:23 ` KK6GM
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