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From: Shark8 <onewingedshark@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Anti-Ada FUD (rant)
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 22:55:53 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2013-09-22T22:55:53-07:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a0a73007-b776-4a9e-863c-5af979a0728f@googlegroups.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d24a05ba-0922-41ed-9c16-6c886e0aedc5@googlegroups.com>

On Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:43:36 PM UTC-6, Peter Brooks wrote:
> On Sunday, 22 September 2013 23:24:24 UTC+2, Shark8  wrote:
> > 
> > Tell me about it; that's one of the biggest turn-offs I encountered in school. There's a portion of a rant in the Unix-Hater's Handbook which claims that Unix had stunted development/advancement in OSes and with that attitude I encountered I don't doubt it (or that the same is [mostly] true of C/C++).
> 
> If a proper APSE had been developed, I'm sure it would have displaced Unix.

If by ASPE you mean an Ada Programming Support Environment, then there was the R-1000. I found a pretty interesting website/blog about a guy's memories of using it.

> The power of Unix is mainly down to the brilliant invention of fork and exec - they're what led to sockets and the elegance of TCP/IP compared to other protocols of the time.

Fork and Exec led to sockets and TCP/IP? I'm sorry, but I seriously don't see the connection there.

> This is particularly evident if you look at the horlicks that MSDOS makes of networking, even DOS version Windows 7.

That's flat-out false: Windows XP, 2000, and 7 are all descended from the NT Kernel, which means they *aren't* impacted by the design of DOS/Win3/Win95/Win98. (But that they are as compatible as they are to programs from that branch of development shows how much effort and care went into building the compatibility layer.)


  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-23  5:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-20 22:18 Anti-Ada FUD (rant) krfkeith
2013-09-20 22:47 ` Adam Beneschan
2013-09-20 23:32 ` John B. Matthews
2013-09-21 12:06 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-22  0:47 ` gautier_niouzes
2013-09-22 21:24 ` Shark8
2013-09-23  4:43   ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  5:14     ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-09-23  6:05       ` Shark8
2013-09-23 23:19         ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2013-09-24  7:10           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23  7:00       ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23  7:55         ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23  8:31           ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  8:37           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-23  8:52             ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23  8:59         ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-23 11:31           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-29  1:04           ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-24  1:40         ` Paul Rubin
2013-09-24  7:05           ` Bill Richards
2013-09-24  7:34             ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-24  7:49               ` Bill Richards
2013-09-24 10:47                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-24 10:38             ` Georg Bauhaus
2013-09-24 15:39               ` Paul Rubin
2013-09-28 23:28         ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-23  5:55     ` Shark8 [this message]
2013-09-23  6:12       ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  7:34         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-09-23  8:36           ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23  9:36             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2013-09-23  9:39               ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 12:16                 ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 12:54                   ` Bill Findlay
2013-09-23 14:32                     ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-23 22:06                       ` Peter C. Chapin
2013-09-29  1:00           ` Shmuel Metz
2013-09-23  7:26       ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-24  6:03         ` Shark8
2013-09-24  7:51           ` Peter Brooks
2013-09-26 20:58             ` erlo
2013-09-24  6:38 ` krfkeith
2013-09-24 23:18   ` Dennis Lee Bieber
2013-09-28  6:21     ` Shark8
2013-09-28 14:40       ` Per Sandberg
2013-09-28 21:54       ` Dennis Lee Bieber
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