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From: "Steve Doiel" <nospam_steved94@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Microsoft takes on history
Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:37:46 GMT
Date: 2002-05-25T14:37:46+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <_kNH8.19579$ux5.20843@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 5ee5b646.0205250319.324e9ff8@posting.google.com


"Robert Dewar" <dewar@gnat.com> wrote in message
news:5ee5b646.0205250319.324e9ff8@posting.google.com...
> "Frank J. Lhota" <NOSPAM.FrankLho@rcn.com> wrote in message
news:<acmn8f$lmd$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
>
> > In the first years of the IBM/PC, IBM and Microsoft were indeed
partners. It
> > was this partnership that produced MS-DOS as the standard OS for IBM's
first
> > personal computer.
>
> That's misleading. When the PC came out, it was sold without an operating
> system. I remember well going into the IBM store (IBM was briefly in the
> retail business) and buying a machine, and then I asked about the
operating
> system. I was pointed to a bin marked operating systems. I found UCSD, CPM
> and MS/DOS. I bought a copy of CPM and MS/DOS, and played with both.
MS/DOS
> at that time was purely a microsoft product, and was not specially pushed
> by IBM, although most certainly IBM had help cause it to be produced. In
> practice MS/DOS won out in the market place over the other alternatives,
> because for one thing it was a fraction of the price of the alternatives.

Gee.  I always thought PCDOS was bundled with those old 16k machines, and
the only readily available alternative was CPM86.  I associate UCSD with the
Apple II's and CPM with the old 8080/Z80 based machines.

It was my understanding that IBM paid Microsoft a one-time ridicuously low
fee for distributing PCDOS with their machines.  IBM did not maintain
exclusive rights and Microsoft made big money on selling MSDOS to clone
makers.

But then of course I was a poor student at the time and wasn't in the market
for a PC :-)

SteveD

>
> I think I still have my copy of CPM :-)





  parent reply	other threads:[~2002-05-25 14:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-05-23 15:24 Microsoft takes on ACT Ted Dennison
2002-05-23 16:09 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-24 13:31   ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-24 14:05     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-25 14:26       ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-28 15:42         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-24 14:52   ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-24 20:13   ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-23 18:01 ` Wes Groleau
2002-05-23 18:30   ` tmoran
2002-05-23 21:21     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-24 14:02       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-24 14:31         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-25  5:48           ` OT: " tmoran
2002-05-28 15:50             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-25  7:58           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-24 18:45         ` OT: Microsoft takes on history Frank J. Lhota
2002-05-24 19:05           ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-24 19:51             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-25  8:12               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-25 10:31                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-05-25 12:16                   ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-25 15:40                   ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-25 17:08                     ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-06-07 22:14                     ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-25 20:09                 ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-24 19:57             ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-05-24 20:35               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-25  0:41                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-05-28 16:14                   ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-29 16:18                     ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-29 17:37                       ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-29 21:32                       ` Dan Andreatta
2002-05-30  6:35                         ` Robert C. Leif
2002-05-30 14:12                           ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31  5:38                             ` XML & Ada was " Robert C. Leif
2002-05-30 13:45                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-30 15:11                         ` Stephen Leake
2002-05-29 20:34                     ` John Doe
2002-05-24 20:54             ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-24 20:26               ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-28 16:20                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-24 19:34           ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-24 20:29           ` OT: " David Marceau
2002-05-24 20:42             ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-25  0:52             ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-05-25 11:19               ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-25 11:50                 ` Frank J. Lhota
2002-05-25 14:37                 ` Steve Doiel [this message]
2002-05-25 16:46                 ` ON Topic: Ada for CP/M Frank J. Lhota
2002-05-25 22:57                   ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-26  5:57                     ` Adrian Hoe
2002-06-07 21:56                       ` Randy Brukardt
2002-05-28 16:24                     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-29 13:48                       ` Larry Kilgallen
2002-05-29 13:17                         ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-30  0:43                           ` Darren New
2002-05-30 13:58                             ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-31 18:19                               ` Jeffrey Carter
2002-05-31 18:31                                 ` Marin David Condic
2002-06-05 13:09                         ` [OT] VMS, was: " Simon Clubley
2002-05-30  2:53                       ` Robert Dewar
2002-06-07 22:10                 ` OT: Microsoft takes on history Randy Brukardt
2002-05-25 15:41               ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-23 18:43   ` Microsoft takes on ACT chris.danx
2002-05-24  2:19     ` Ted Dennison
2002-05-24  3:09     ` Adrian Hoe
2002-05-24 12:29       ` chris.danx
2002-05-24 13:39         ` Ingo Marks
2002-05-24 14:32           ` chris.danx
2002-05-24 17:59             ` OT: SuSE, Raid (was: Microsoft takes on ACT) Wilhelm Spickermann
2002-05-25  0:15               ` chris.danx
2002-05-25  5:25                 ` Wilhelm Spickermann
2002-05-25 23:45                   ` chris.danx
2002-05-26  4:57                     ` OT: " Wilhelm Spickermann
2002-05-26  9:52                     ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-26 10:40                     ` David C. Hoos, Sr.
2002-05-25  9:36               ` OT: " Ingo Marks
2002-05-25 15:08             ` Microsoft takes on ACT Adrian Hoe
2002-05-24 14:56         ` [OT] Microsoft vs. Linux vs. Wes Groleau
2002-05-25 15:25           ` Adrian Hoe
2002-05-25 21:38       ` [OT] Switching to Linux (was: Microsoft takes on ACT) Michal Nowak
2002-05-26  9:37         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-27  9:23           ` Michal Nowak
2002-06-11  6:30             ` Adrian Hoe
2002-05-23 19:54 ` Microsoft takes on ACT sk
2002-05-23 21:14   ` Michael Bode
2002-05-25 22:41   ` Robert Dewar
2002-05-26 20:19     ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-26 21:04       ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-27  6:46         ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-27  6:46         ` Florian Weimer
2002-05-27 23:37       ` Robert I. Eachus
2002-05-28  9:30         ` Preben Randhol
2002-05-28 16:34     ` Marin David Condic
2002-05-24  8:08 ` Dewi Daniels
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