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From: "Ken Garlington" <Ken.Garlington@computer.org>
Subject: Re: Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry?
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 00:42:34 GMT
Date: 2000-11-02T00:42:34+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <_L2M5.2859$pq3.198726@news.flash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 3A006EB1.BA1B841F@averstar.com


"Tucker Taft" <stt@averstar.com> wrote in message
news:3A006EB1.BA1B841F@averstar.com...
: Ken Garlington wrote:
: >
: > Actually, as the person who started this thread, I was talking about
: > marketing. It just seems odd to make choices that damage your historical
: > customer base (military) before you've adequately captured your new base
: > (non-military).
:
: I think we are interested in appealing to military customers.  If you have
: recommendations of the best way to do so, please fire away.
: I honestly had the sense that broadcasting military success stories
: was actually counterproductive in some circles, including some military
: circles.

Advertising military success stories, based on contracts where the language
was specified by the Government, is probably counter-productive. Advertising
success stories where Ada was chosen by a military contractor *on their
own*, based on a business case specific to defense applications, is much
more productive in the defense market. Defense contractors look at what
other companies in their same industry are doing, just like any other
business segment. I have heard more than once that statement "Once the Ada
mandate was dropped, all the other military contractors stopped using Ada,
so why should we use it?" You know what? If you look at what's been
published post-mandate, it's not an easy statement to refute.

At this point, it probably doesn't matter. However, I suspect that not
drawing this distinction in the decision to concentrate on non-defense
applications was a mistake.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2000-11-02  0:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-10-30 16:04 Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:03 ` Tucker Taft
2000-10-30 18:25   ` Robert A Duff
2000-10-30 20:41   ` Ken Garlington
2000-10-30 18:30 ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-30 21:36 ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-30 22:01   ` James Rogers
2000-11-01 14:38     ` John Kern
2000-11-01 16:16       ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-30 22:17   ` Pat Rogers
2000-10-31  4:10   ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-10-31 14:52     ` Ted Dennison
2000-10-31 16:50     ` mjsilva
2000-10-31 17:06       ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-10-31 17:39         ` mjsilva
2000-11-01  2:39         ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-01  3:19           ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-01 19:27             ` Tucker Taft
2000-11-01 20:04               ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02  0:37                 ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02  0:42                   ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-02  3:16                     ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02  3:48                   ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-02 12:38                     ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02 13:33                       ` Gautier
2000-11-03  5:30                         ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-02  0:42               ` Ken Garlington [this message]
2000-11-03  0:00       ` Ada vs. C++ in defense projects Michael P. Card
2000-11-04  0:00         ` Jeff Stimson
2000-11-04  0:00           ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-05  0:57             ` Jeff Carter
2000-11-04  0:00           ` Robert Love
2000-10-31  8:06   ` Is the Ada World Embarrassed by the Defense Industry? Pascal Obry
2000-10-31 14:53     ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-10-31 15:17       ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-10-31 21:10         ` Jean St-Pierre
2000-10-31 21:17     ` Wes Groleau
2000-10-31 21:13   ` Wes Groleau
2000-11-03  0:00   ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03  0:00     ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03  0:00       ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-03  0:00       ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-03  0:00         ` E. Robert Tisdale
2000-11-03  0:00           ` Larry Kilgallen
2000-11-18  0:00         ` John Magness
2000-11-18  0:00           ` Ken Garlington
2000-11-19  0:00           ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-06  0:00       ` Laurent Guerby
2000-11-06  0:00         ` Ted Dennison
2000-11-06  0:00       ` Gautier
2000-11-04  0:00     ` Lao Xiao Hai
2000-11-03  0:00   ` mark_lundquist
2000-11-04  3:08     ` DuckE
2000-11-04  0:00       ` Frode Tennebø
2000-11-07  0:17         ` mark
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