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From: "Randy Brukardt" <randy@rrsoftware.com>
Subject: Re: How do you bitwise operations in Ada '83 and '95
Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2006 18:13:26 -0500
Date: 2006-07-20T18:13:26-05:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YZudnZvrUet2kF3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@megapath.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.42.1153428092.30988.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org

"Marius Amado-Alves" <marius@amado-alves.info> wrote in message
news:mailman.42.1153428092.30988.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org...
> > Surely a record rep clause, and then simple usage of its
> > components, is more readable, and more likely to be correct, and  even
more
> > likely to generate optimized code, than source code littered with
complex
> > arithmetic expressions.
>
> Actually, in this case, no. Time needs an order relation. Implemented
> as a record you have to write the relation functions--and you can
> botch there.

True enough.

> Implemented as a modular type the predefined relation
> functions are gratis--and surely correct.

Only if you've carefully laid out the order of the bits so that will work.
Which is much more likely to ruin the alignment of the bit-field components
(an important part of maximum performance).

> And the expressions are not
> complex. Once you get the masks and magnitudes right, it's simply
>
> Part := (Whole and Mask) / Magnitude.

But that's for each component. Surely you do other operations (like
difference in seconds) where the expressions are  far more complex?

All-in-all, I prefer the record representation. (Case in point: the
Janus/Ada Calendar.Time implementation is a 64-bit record type.) But there
may be exceptions - and, in any case, if the type is properly encapsulated,
it's not that big of a deal either way (no one should be looking at the raw
representation of times no matter what they are).

                         Randy.





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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2006-07-20 20:41 ` How do you bitwise operations in Ada '83 and '95 Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 23:13   ` Randy Brukardt [this message]
2006-07-21  5:38     ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21 22:09       ` Randy Brukardt
     [not found] <BFF12262-F906-4F9A-B867-D0373609F038@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-20 16:40 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20  9:39 Fwd: " Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 17:54 ` tmoran
2006-07-20 18:30   ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 19:36     ` tmoran
2006-07-20 22:09       ` Simon Wright
2006-07-21 10:07         ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-21 19:09           ` Simon Wright
2006-07-21 19:45             ` tmoran
2006-07-23 15:59             ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-24  6:08               ` Simon Wright
     [not found] <9315684D-C216-4EDA-8852-0A6BD4C275B0@amado-alves.info>
2006-07-19 22:30 ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20  7:40   ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20  9:29     ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-20 12:31       ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20 13:08         ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-20 13:29           ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-20 13:49           ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-21  5:23             ` Colin Paul Gloster
2006-07-21  8:00               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-20  9:03   ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-20  9:38     ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21  9:53       ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-20 11:31     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-20 13:18       ` Marius Amado-Alves
2006-07-21  9:58       ` Stephen Leake
2006-07-21 12:09         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-21 19:03           ` Simon Wright
2006-07-22  8:32             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2006-07-22  8:57               ` Simon Wright
2006-07-22 10:52               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-22 13:31                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
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2006-07-18 18:45 ` Robert A Duff
2006-07-18 18:53 ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-18 19:22   ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-18 21:32     ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19  0:40       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19  3:55         ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19  4:37           ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19 13:05             ` jimmaureenrogers
2006-07-19 19:43               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
     [not found]             ` <1153313832.389434.144930@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
2006-07-19 13:55               ` Georg Bauhaus
2006-07-19 14:20               ` Robert A Duff
2006-07-19 19:30               ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19 14:41             ` Robert A Duff
2006-07-18 19:21 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2006-07-19  3:01 ` tmoran
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