From: Karel Miklav <karel@inetis.spppambait.com>
Subject: Re: Conflicting statements about GPS?
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:06:32 +0200
Date: 2002-10-21T09:06:32+02:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <YHNs9.155$JU1.6177@news.siol.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: slrnar2us6.74e.randhol+news@kiuk0152.chembio.ntnu.no
If GPS is kind-a free, i'd really love to hear where can I download it
from, or if there is a friend who'd like to share...
Regards, Karel
Preben Randhol wrote:
> John Stoneham wrote:
>
>>
>>From www.fsf.org and the definition of Free Software:
>>
>>"Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy, distribute,
>>study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it refers to four
>>kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:
>>
>> * The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
>> * The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your needs
>>(freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
>> * The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
>>(freedom 2).
>> * The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements to
>>the public, so that the whole community benefits. (freedom 3). Access to the
>>source code is a precondition for this.
>>A program is free software if users have all of these freedoms."
>>
>>So, in order for GPS to be considered "Free Software", any user of GPS
>>should be able to make copies available for others (freedom 2), or make
>>improvements to the source code and redistribute that (freedom 3). If the
>>copies given to Gnat Pro users are restricted from free distribution to
>>others, then it is not "Free Software".
>
>
> Who says it is restricted?
>
>
>>Note that there is nothing in the definition of "Free Software" that
>>prevents ACT from charging for it. They just can't restrict its distribution
>>to only paying customers and still call it "Free Software". Probably the
>
>
> Of course they can. However they cannot restrict their customers from
> distributing the software, as I understand it.
>
>
>>best example of this senario is Red Hat. They charge for their Linux OS and
>>service, but it's freely available for download to anyone who wants it, even
>>the most bleeding edge versions. They don't hold back and release Red Hat
>>7.0 to the public while selling 9.0 and restricting it's distribution.
>
>
> Why not? Suse don't distribute ISO-images of their distribution.
> Neither are they required to do this.
>
>
>>I think it is perfectly acceptable for ACT to restrict GPS to paying
>>customers and release old versions to the public for free, but I don't think
>>it's acceptable for ACT to call GPS "Free Software" from the very beginning
>>if that is their plan. It is misleading and a distortion of the definition
>>of Free Software.
>
>
> But they are following the 4 freedoms you quoted so I don't see your
> point. I think you have the misconception that Free Software must be
> distributed to the public, this is not a requirement. I can make a
> program and only give it to friends and still call it Free Software. I
> cannot restrict my friends in what they want to do with the program as
> stated above, though. There is no requirements that I have to put it out to
> the public unless I want to. The freedoms are related to the users of
> the software not the developers.
>
> Regards,
> Preben
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Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2002-10-19 2:46 Conflicting statements about GPS? John Stoneham
2002-10-19 8:12 ` Samuel Tardieu
2002-10-19 10:58 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-19 15:08 ` John Stoneham
2002-10-19 15:34 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-21 7:06 ` Karel Miklav [this message]
2002-10-21 7:44 ` Preben Randhol
2002-10-21 17:36 ` Mark Johnson
2002-10-21 18:13 ` tmoran
2002-10-22 4:42 ` Dale Stanbrough
2002-10-22 17:24 ` Pascal Obry
2002-10-22 21:46 ` Stephen Leake
2002-10-22 22:07 ` Hyman Rosen
2002-10-23 1:30 ` Jeffrey Creem
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