From: Warren <ve3wwg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Inferring array index type from array object
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:44:22 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2010-06-28T13:44:22+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Xns9DA563139F62CWarrensBlatherings@85.214.73.210> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 88f9osFmcmU1@mid.individual.net
Niklas Holsti expounded in news:88f9osFmcmU1@mid.individual.net:
> Warren wrote:
>> Niklas Holsti expounded in news:88ec2vF3uqU1@mid.individual.net:
>>> Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 00:30:23 -0700 (PDT), Maciej Sobczak wrote:
>> ..
>>>>> 2. Is it possible to declare the index variable without hardcoding
>>>>> the index type (that is, to infer it from the array object)?
>>>> No, without improving the type system. E.g. introducing abstract
>>>> index types, and abstract range types (or more general sets of index
>>>> types), and abstract composite types like arrays.
>>> I don't think such large language changes would be necessary. The
>>> expression S'Range gives the compiler all the information about the
>>> type and its constraints, so I see no reason why Ada could not be
>>> extended simply to allow S'Range in a variable declaration, as in the
>>> above quoted "I : S'Range". The declared variable "I" would have the
>>> same (sub)type as the loop counter in "for I in S'Range loop ...".
>>
>> I think most would agree that this is a "convenience" feature.
>
> Yes, but in other contexts, when we advocate Ada, we often make a big
> point of the "convenience" of the 'Range attribute for arrays, such as
> "No need to pass extra parameters for array index bounds, just use
> 'Range". The suggestion to let variables be declared by the "type"
> S'Range (or, if desired, a new attribute S'Index_Type) has a similar
> advantage (but a weaker one, I admit).
But how far down that road do you want to go? This is
the crux of the issue.
I'd find ++X or X += n convenient. But should that be
implemented in Ada? I'm ok with leaving it out.
At some point, you have to draw a line in the sand.
Warren
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2010-06-23 7:30 Inferring array index type from array object Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-23 8:01 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-23 9:03 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 12:24 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-23 12:52 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 19:09 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-24 7:25 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-23 14:38 ` Robert A Duff
2010-06-23 15:17 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 17:17 ` Robert A Duff
2010-06-24 6:16 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-23 12:13 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-23 14:27 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-06-23 20:24 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-23 16:33 ` Warren
2010-06-23 17:49 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-23 18:45 ` Warren
2010-06-23 20:39 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-28 13:44 ` Warren [this message]
2010-06-28 22:18 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-06-29 1:49 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-29 2:10 ` (see below)
2010-06-29 16:56 ` Warren
2010-06-29 17:50 ` John B. Matthews
2010-06-29 19:31 ` Warren
2010-06-29 20:06 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-29 20:16 ` Warren
2010-06-29 20:22 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-29 20:39 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-29 20:55 ` Warren
2010-06-29 21:00 ` Warren
2010-06-29 21:47 ` John B. Matthews
2010-06-29 21:52 ` Damien Carbonne
2010-06-29 22:22 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-30 16:43 ` Warren
2010-06-29 21:18 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-30 5:01 ` Simon Wright
2010-06-30 14:29 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-29 20:28 ` Damien Carbonne
2010-06-29 21:20 ` John B. Matthews
2010-06-23 13:12 ` Gautier write-only
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