From: Warren <ve3wwg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Advice on selling Ada to a C shop
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:07:24 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2010-06-21T14:07:24+00:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Xns9D9E66FAD316BWarrensBlatherings@188.40.43.230> (raw)
In-Reply-To: hvkcf6$auo$1@tornado.tornevall.net
Jeffrey R. Carter expounded in news:hvkcf6$auo$1@tornado.tornevall.net:
> usenet@scriptoriumdesigns.com wrote:
>>
>> So, what points would you emphasize to each (manager, programmers) to
>> make the Ada sale? I've read a lot of the advocacy and I think I
>> have a fair handle on it, but I'd still like other viewpoints, and
>> perhaps even examples of such a successful switch.
>
> I think there is no way to sell Ada to developers. Ada is a
> SW-engineering language; coders don't like it. In my experience, 98%
> of developers are coders. SW engineers generally like Ada once they
> become aware of it. So if your people are SW engineers, Ada will sell
> itself; if they're coders, there's no way to sell it to them.
This is why I suggest that they try it with GNAT 2010 with
the ATMEGA chips. But even this might be a hard place
to start from (learning the Ada language). But if they
have Linux and some free time with GNAT first, then an
AVR project should not be a big leap from there.
If you have to sell the developers, you got to get them to
"want" it. They need to sell themselves somehow. That
is where a pilot project or proof of concept comes in.
Learning Ada is an uphill climb at first and many may
only climb it kicking and screaming ;-) If they are to
be self taught, then I'd also plan on providing some
good texts for them.
Warren
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2010-06-19 23:01 Advice on selling Ada to a C shop usenet
2010-06-20 6:17 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-20 6:24 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-21 14:07 ` Warren [this message]
2010-06-20 7:00 ` J-P. Rosen
2010-06-20 7:40 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-06-20 12:46 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-06-21 14:23 ` Warren
2010-06-25 17:34 ` Marco
2010-06-28 13:22 ` Warren
2010-06-29 8:42 ` Stephen Leake
2010-07-01 21:09 ` Per Sandberg
2010-08-21 3:53 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-21 9:22 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-08-21 10:10 ` Simon Wright
2010-08-22 0:16 ` Brian Drummond
2010-06-20 9:34 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-20 12:35 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-06-20 17:44 ` Fritz Wuehler
2010-06-20 18:06 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-20 21:13 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-21 0:29 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-21 1:14 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-06-21 8:10 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-24 0:04 ` BrianG
2010-06-28 13:37 ` Warren
2010-06-21 8:14 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-21 9:22 ` George Orwell
2010-06-21 13:59 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-08-21 4:28 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-21 9:21 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-08-21 11:06 ` Brian Drummond
2010-06-21 14:40 ` Warren
2010-06-21 17:38 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-06-21 20:04 ` Warren
2010-06-21 19:47 ` starwars
2010-06-21 20:07 ` Warren
2010-06-21 14:33 ` Warren
2010-06-21 14:29 ` Warren
2010-06-22 5:01 ` Fritz Wuehler
2010-08-21 4:11 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-08-21 9:01 ` Pascal Obry
2010-08-21 9:24 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-21 8:29 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-21 9:58 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-23 15:36 ` Brian Drummond
2010-06-21 13:43 ` Warren
2010-06-22 15:00 ` Lucretia
2010-06-22 18:01 ` anon
2010-06-22 19:06 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-06-23 16:20 ` anon
2010-06-23 18:19 ` (see below)
2010-06-23 22:28 ` Brian Drummond
2010-06-23 19:57 ` Peter C. Chapin
2010-06-23 20:50 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-23 21:24 ` Robert A Duff
2010-06-29 20:30 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-29 20:35 ` Adam Beneschan
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2010-07-01 11:32 ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-23 21:33 ` Robert A Duff
2010-06-24 17:25 ` anon
2010-06-24 22:18 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-06-24 7:48 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-24 17:24 ` anon
2010-06-24 19:34 ` Maciej Sobczak
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2010-07-06 5:37 ` David Thompson
2010-07-06 11:14 ` anon
2010-07-09 13:21 ` Marco
2010-07-09 13:45 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-07-09 14:12 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-09 15:08 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-22 18:06 ` Phil Clayton
2010-06-22 20:25 ` Gautier write-only
2010-06-22 21:00 ` Gautier write-only
2010-06-23 7:17 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-06-23 7:40 ` Gautier write-only
2010-06-23 11:17 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-23 18:38 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
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