comp.lang.ada
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Warren <ve3wwg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:55:48 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2010-06-14T20:55:48+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Xns9D97AC3961C68WarrensBlatherings@81.169.183.62> (raw)
In-Reply-To: c4259b0a-3d91-45e8-b88f-d76c4c0e08ee@z31g2000vbk.googlegroups.com

zeta_no expounded in news:c4259b0a-3d91-45e8-b88f-
d76c4c0e08ee@z31g2000vbk.googlegroups.com:

> Stephen Leake wrote:
> 
>> Compared to what? What other open source language community is better
>> organized?
> 
> Python appeared in 1991.  It has bindings and projects for almost
> everything.  It is used everywhere on open source projects.  How much
> you bet Python is much more popular than Ada?  How do you think they
> actually achieved that?  I know it is not geared toward the same use,
> but the phenomenon is there, to the point that many people try to use
> it on segment of computer programming where it should not belong.  You
> can even compile natively nowadays

I think this is a poor argument, as I am sure others will
vocalize.  Perl is another "popular" tool, with many add on
modules etc.  Both have their uses, but their popularity 
hardly makes a "superiority statement".  It only means that
they've been well accepted without implying much about their
application.  It's like saying MS Windows is the best design
based upon sales.

One aspect of programming that seems to be popular, is that
many programmers seem to prefer to have it compile and be 
wrong (if necessary) and then fix the issues as they discover
them.  They prefer tiny victories (if they got one) and
iterate to the final solution, through multiple edit +
compiles.

Ada OTOH, points out problems (often related to bad design) 
and tends to refuse to compile until "all is correct". By 
contrast, a small problem often works the first time after 
a successful Ada compile.

So how do you encourage ppl to "get it right" the first
time instead of accepting "early compile victories"?
emacs?

Warren



  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-14 20:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17  3:29 GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project zeta_no
2010-05-18  7:53 ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 13:40   ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:39     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:12       ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19  9:28         ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:09     ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 12:56 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-18 14:12   ` zeta_no
2010-05-18 14:36     ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-19  9:16     ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-19  9:22       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-20 10:39         ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-20 12:10           ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-24 17:04             ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 21:42               ` zeta_no
2010-05-24 22:45                 ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 17:26                   ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 19:25                     ` Improving the first contact with Ada Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 19:54                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-13 20:35                       ` zeta_no
2010-06-13 21:22                         ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-13 22:35                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-06-14  8:03                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-14  8:47                               ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2010-06-14  9:24                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14  9:33                                 ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-06-15  6:48                                   ` Stephen Leake
2010-06-14 10:39                                 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 12:19                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 13:06                                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 14:29                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 15:59                                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-14 16:44                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-14 20:34                                   ` Warren
2010-06-14  9:10                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-06-29  2:51                         ` Randy Brukardt
2010-06-14  8:35                     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-07-06 20:15                       ` jonathan
2010-07-06 12:29                     ` Improving the first contact with Ada (was: GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project) Nicholas Collin Paul de Gloucester
2010-07-06 12:57                       ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-07-06 13:36                         ` Improving the first contact with Ada Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-25  2:26                 ` GCC conflict on Ubuntu for mixed Ada/C++ project Stephen Leake
2010-06-13 20:10                   ` zeta_no
2010-06-14 20:55                     ` Warren [this message]
2010-06-15 13:45                       ` zeta_no
2010-06-15 15:15                         ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-06-15 17:05                         ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-25  2:15               ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-18 22:38 ` Ludovic Brenta
replies disabled

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox