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From: Warren <ve3wwg@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: for S'Image use Func??
Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 13:27:17 +0000 (UTC)
Date: 2010-05-12T13:27:17+00:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Xns9D76602DC2166WarrensBlatherings@188.40.43.213> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1x8q3p2gvm9fh.aru6nueicagd$.dlg@40tude.net

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Dmitry A. Kazakov expounded in
news:1x8q3p2gvm9fh.aru6nueicagd$.dlg@40tude.net: 

> On Tue, 11 May 2010 20:56:11 +0000 (UTC), Warren wrote:
> 
>> Dmitry A. Kazakov expounded in news:1qfu2ba65pd63$.asc7m201hi6u$.dlg@
>> 40tude.net:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 11 May 2010 17:17:38 +0000 (UTC), Warren wrote:
>>> 
>>>> =?utf-8?Q?Yannick_Duch=C3=AAne_=28Hibou57?= =?utf-8?Q?=29?=
>>>> expounded 
>> in
>>>> news:op.vcig7go1ule2fv@garhos: 
>>>> 
>>>>> Le Mon, 10 May 2010 22:56:11 +0200, Maciej Sobczak  
>>>>> <see.my.homepage@gmail.com> a écrit:
>>>>>> Coming back to I/O - what I miss in Ada is the equivalent of
>>>>>> fread 
>> in
>>>>>> C - that is, an operation that reads *up to* the given number of
>>>>>> bytes. Or maybe there is something that I didn't notice?
>>>> 
>>>>> It's there : look at [ARM 2005 13.13.1] which defines the package 
>>>>> Ada.Streams, which in turn contains the following :
>>>>> 
>>>>>     type Root_Stream_Type is abstract tagged limited private;
>>>>>     ...
>>>>>     type Stream_Element is mod implementation-defined;
>>>>>     ...
>>>> ...
>>>>> Well, to be honest, this is not exactly the same as with C, as  
>>>>> Ada.Streams.Stream_Element is implementation defined (which is
>>>>> good,  because this is indeed platform dependent), so you will
>>>>> need .. 
>>>> 
>>>> All this is well and good for applications that can work in 
>>>> "implementation defined" units of type Stream_Element. A pragma
>>>> won't fix the problem should it be different than a byte. Granted,
>>>> it will never likely come up on the platforms I have in mind.
>>> 
>>> If you to read a character stream, just do so:
>>> 
>>>    Item := Character'Read (S);
>>>    Character'Write (S, Item);
>>> 
>>> For octet streams use Unsigned_8.
>> 
>> But this has to include seeking in the stream as well.
> 
> Repeat reading n times.
> 
>> Can you guarantee seeking to an arbitrary "byte boundary"?
> 
> On a machine with 13 bis per character? Can you define "byte
> boundary"? The point is that if Stream_Element is not 8 bits, and the
> environment supports streams of octets, then I see no reason why Ada
> vendor would implement Unsigned_8r'Read incompatible with that.

On those machines, you're not going to have standard C I/O
either. That's an purely academic case.

But the issue I am taking, are machines that define multiples
of a byte.

Warren



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Thread overview: 154+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-06 17:10 for S'Image use Func?? Warren
2010-05-06 17:23 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-06 20:05   ` Warren
2010-05-06 17:58 ` Adam Beneschan
2010-05-06 19:52   ` Warren
2010-05-07  8:12     ` stefan-lucks
2010-05-08  5:26       ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-10 15:16       ` Charmed Snark
2010-05-07  2:10   ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07 18:24     ` Keith Thompson
2010-05-06 18:14 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-06 20:04   ` Warren
2010-05-06 20:19     ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-06 20:56       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-06 21:11         ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07  8:40           ` J-P. Rosen
2010-05-07 12:21             ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 13:37               ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-07 14:25                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 15:46                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-07 17:38                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-07 20:15                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-07 20:28                         ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-07 21:16                           ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07 22:18                             ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-09  0:06                               ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-09  0:31                                 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-07 20:31                     ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 20:51                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-07 21:07                         ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 21:25                       ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07 22:16                       ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-10 15:48                   ` Warren
2010-05-10 16:31                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-10 16:52                       ` Warren
2010-05-10 17:55                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-10 18:50                           ` Warren
2010-05-10 19:20                             ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-10 20:16                               ` Warren
2010-05-10 20:38                                 ` Simon Wright
2010-05-10 20:52                                   ` Warren
2010-05-11 17:38                                     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-11 18:19                                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 20:36                                       ` Warren
2010-05-11  7:34                                 ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-11  7:56                                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 16:56                                     ` Warren
2010-05-13 18:53                                     ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-11 16:49                                   ` Warren
2010-05-11  8:26                             ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11  9:49                               ` J-P. Rosen
2010-05-11 17:06                                 ` Warren
2010-05-12  5:00                                   ` J-P. Rosen
2010-05-12 14:39                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-12 16:52                                       ` Warren
2010-05-13 18:20                                     ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-17 10:00                                       ` J-P. Rosen
2010-05-20  9:31                                         ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-21  6:56                                           ` Niklas Holsti
2010-05-11 14:27                               ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-11 15:03                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 15:45                                   ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 15:23                               ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 16:59                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 17:05                               ` Warren
2010-05-11 17:54                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 20:50                                   ` Charmed Snark
2010-05-11 19:03                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 20:53                                   ` Warren
2010-05-10 20:56                           ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-10 20:24                             ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-11  7:42                               ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-10 21:30                             ` Ludovic Brenta
2010-05-11  8:35                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 13:35                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-11 14:24                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 20:18                                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-11 21:46                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-12 13:16                                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-12 14:33                                           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-12 15:58                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-12 22:14                                             ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-13  7:31                                               ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-13 13:16                                                 ` Warren
2010-05-14 21:03                                                 ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-15  8:35                                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-15 20:50                                                     ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-16  7:48                                                       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-16 20:56                                                         ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-16 21:31                                                           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 15:56                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 17:15                                   ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 18:48                                     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 22:24                             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11  7:58                               ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-11 15:54                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 20:23                                   ` Maciej Sobczak
2010-05-10 22:39                             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 17:17                               ` Warren
2010-05-11 17:59                                 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 20:56                                   ` Warren
2010-05-11 22:06                                     ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-12 13:27                                       ` Warren [this message]
2010-05-12 16:03                                         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-11 18:57                                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-11 21:08                                   ` Warren
2010-05-11 19:56                               ` Gautier write-only
2010-05-12 13:33                                 ` Warren
2010-05-07 15:35                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-07 20:33                   ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 21:27                     ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07 21:36                       ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 22:09                       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-09  0:17                         ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07 19:56               ` J-P. Rosen
2010-05-07 20:14                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 20:17                 ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-07 20:41                   ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-06 21:20         ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-10 15:26       ` Ada & gdb (was: for S'Image use Func??) Warren
2010-05-10 18:02         ` John B. Matthews
2010-05-10 19:52           ` Warren
2010-05-06 22:33     ` for S'Image use Func?? Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-06 23:22       ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-07  2:17         ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07 12:27           ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 15:19             ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-07 20:19               ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 21:11             ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-10 16:05             ` Warren
2010-05-19  6:26               ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07 15:21           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 16:03       ` Warren
2010-05-06 18:50 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2010-05-06 19:50   ` Warren
2010-05-06 20:22     ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-06 21:25       ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-07  2:20         ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07  7:28           ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2010-05-07 10:15         ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-07 15:07           ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-08  5:38             ` Stephen Leake
2010-05-07 19:29           ` Simon Wright
2010-05-07 20:10             ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 19:44               ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-07 20:53                 ` Robert A Duff
2010-05-07 21:59               ` Simon Wright
2010-05-09  0:20                 ` Randy Brukardt
2010-05-07  8:53 ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-10 16:18   ` Warren
2010-05-10 17:54     ` Georg Bauhaus
2010-05-10 19:57       ` Warren
2010-05-10 19:09     ` Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57)
2010-05-10 20:01       ` Warren
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